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Post by Ouroboros on Apr 1, 2018 12:56:45 GMT
This is not an April fool's day prank. I'm wondering if anyone can offer a quick identification of this heavy Greek/Roman or Other wallhanger or sword shaped object I've been using recently to build up my sword arms. In my youth I purchased sword shaped objects, wallhanger, daggers, knives, military etc etc etc not caring about what they were. Over the years I've found forever homes for these items of an illspent youth...or at least a world gobbling all things sharp n shiny youth...This is one of the only remaining sword shaped objects from my youth and I've long since lost/forgotten what the heck it is. Help me o sword Brothers and Sisters Cheers Keith P/s ignore basement mess. Reno is on hold 😭😭😭     |
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Post by randomnobody on Apr 1, 2018 19:12:24 GMT
I have no idea, but it's certainly interesting. I'm curious what the design inspiration was, apart from "naked men"...
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Apr 1, 2018 19:23:52 GMT
The only thing I can guess (and not more) is it might be some kind of fraternity sword or a modern repro of such a thing.
Not greek or roman but a bit similar to some military short swords of the early 19th cent.
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Post by MOK on Apr 1, 2018 20:51:01 GMT
Seems to be loosely modeled after the Greek xiphos.  |
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Post by Ouroboros on Apr 1, 2018 21:23:19 GMT
The only thing I can guess (and not more) is it might be some kind of fraternity sword or a modern repro of such a thing. Not greek or roman but a bit similar to some military short swords of the early 19th cent. Thanks for taking a peek. Anything is better than the jumbled memory of "did I being this back from the U.K. or did I appropriate her while south of the border....?" 🍻 Keith |
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Post by Ouroboros on Apr 1, 2018 21:25:03 GMT
I have no idea, but it's certainly interesting. I'm curious what the design inspiration was, apart from "naked men"... Purchased during my "ooo interesting" phase of collecting anything sword shaped Keith |
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Post by Ouroboros on Apr 1, 2018 21:28:48 GMT
Seems to be loosely modeled after the Greek xiphos. That's a great take on her. A good place to start. Means I likely picked her up in the U.K. and not in the U.S.A. Cheers! Keith |
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Post by Jordan Williams on Apr 1, 2018 22:58:49 GMT
Yeah it's definitely supposed to mimic a Xiphos, hilt shape and decor is a dead giveaway. Other than that looks like a nice katana (April fools  ) |
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Post by tancred on Apr 2, 2018 0:05:09 GMT
As others have said, it definitely is supposed to have a Greek kind of look and feel about it. The way the "edge" is, and how it has a ricasso and long, flat area on the blade for the etching/decor, it looks for all the world to me to be a Marto/Martespa sword. Not saying it definitely is a Marto, but that's what it most looks like to me. Marto is a Spanish sword company out of Toledo. Most of their stuff is stainless steel and decorative only. It looks old, and I've never seen a Marto sword like that, but that's my guess.
Can you find any kind of maker's mark, or "Made In..." on it?
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Post by MOK on Apr 2, 2018 6:15:17 GMT
Oh! It actually IS a Marto piece - I just noticed you can clearly see their old M logo etched just below the guard in both close-up shots of the hilt. |
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Post by Jordan Williams on Apr 2, 2018 6:30:00 GMT
Oh! It actually IS a Marto piece - I just noticed you can clearly see their old M logo etched just below the guard in both close-up shots of the hilt. This?  |
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Post by MOK on Apr 2, 2018 6:31:39 GMT
Yeah, that.
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Post by randomnobody on Apr 2, 2018 20:50:30 GMT
Shoot, I was gonna jokingly suggest Marto, but I'd never seen one like this and don't really keep up with their catalogs.
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Post by tancred on Apr 2, 2018 23:24:19 GMT
Oh! It actually IS a Marto piece - I just noticed you can clearly see their old M logo etched just below the guard in both close-up shots of the hilt. Good eye, MOK! I missed that entirely. But yep, you're right; that definitely proves its a Marto. I only started really looking at reproduction swords in the late 1990s, and I've never seen a Marto like that. I'd guess its older than that. |
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Post by Ouroboros on Apr 3, 2018 1:29:04 GMT
Oh! It actually IS a Marto piece - I just noticed you can clearly see their old M logo etched just below the guard in both close-up shots of the hilt. I seriously thought that was part of the decoration to be honest! Good call! Thanks. Gonna make up a nice wall mount this weekend if I can dig out my router table 🍻 Now that I know who made her I can set about finding out more about her. Keith |
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Post by Gunnar Wolfgard on Apr 3, 2018 14:34:11 GMT
I have no idea, but it's certainly interesting. I'm curious what the design inspiration was, apart from "naked men"... Randomnobody it might be time to visit the old eye doctor. The first picture is a woman, you can tell by the breasts and hips. I never miss details like breasts and hips on a woman although it's usually the eye's that first get's my attention. |
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Post by pgandy on Apr 3, 2018 14:41:31 GMT
Looks like there's a man to me. Flip it over to picture 4(?).
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Post by randomnobody on Apr 3, 2018 17:02:11 GMT
Oh, you're right. I think I only looked at a couple pictures, and one happened to be the bearded model, so I just assumed it was some reference to Greco-Roman art which is almost always naked dudes.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Apr 3, 2018 17:47:41 GMT
The man is Hercules (club, lion skin hood, crete bull's head) and the woman Athene (shield with Medusa's head, spear). With this I could google the "Marto Alexander the Great Sword" which seems to be not exactly your sword but very similar.   Perhaps an early version? |
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Post by Ouroboros on Apr 3, 2018 20:07:22 GMT
The man is Hercules (club, lion skin hood, crete bull's head) and the woman Athene (shield with Medusa's head, spear). With this I could google the "Marto Alexander the Great Sword" which seems to be not exactly your sword but very similar. Perhaps an early version? Andi, wow--pretty close! I'm so glad I dug this ole guy out to find out what it is and when it was from...brings back memories likely left buried in alcohol-and-other hazed youth. Thanks to all who commented and put ideas out there. Gonna make a nice piece for my new office . I'll post mounted pics this weekend when I dig out my shop...yeah..mmmm thats a lot o digging but I need my bandsaw and crucible and silver supplies.... Keith |
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