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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Mar 12, 2018 6:34:11 GMT
But they show how to mod a sharpened crowbar.
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Post by christain on Mar 12, 2018 12:51:55 GMT
Couldn't be much worse than 'Braveheart'...total historical train-wreck there...but still fun to watch.
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Post by 28shadow on Mar 12, 2018 13:50:23 GMT
But they show how to mod a sharpened crowbar. I've never really gotten this comparison. Crowbars are actually rather handy and not that unwieldy at all (at least by how the saying goes).
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Mar 12, 2018 15:04:33 GMT
I guess they mean a crowbar in the size of a sword.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2018 17:51:03 GMT
But they show how to mod a sharpened crowbar. I've never really gotten this comparison. Crowbars are actually rather handy and not that unwieldy at all (at least by how the saying goes). They never played Half-Life 1 & 2 for sure...
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Post by Jordan Williams on Mar 12, 2018 19:50:04 GMT
This topic has me thinking, would the steel in a crowbar be good for a sword? That loop at the end would make for a nice hand stop i think...
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Post by L Driggers (fallen) on Mar 12, 2018 20:59:38 GMT
The answer to your question no the steel in crowbars is usually 4140.
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Post by Jordan Williams on Mar 13, 2018 5:59:43 GMT
Aw. But thanks Driggers. Saves me a trip to the hardware store tomorrow, as well as a hellish amount of grinding and cutting lol.
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Post by LeMal on Apr 12, 2018 7:50:15 GMT
Ha! Interestingly enough I'm finally getting around to a similar mod (though going slowly, w/ my Dremel)! Though I've made the suggestion on another thread or two before over the past years. Just the blade profile though, leaving the guard alone. Guess I'll have to share some pics as I go. "Great minds think alike," eh? Most intriguing perhaps, I'm getting the strong impression the weight reduction will be just enough, taking it down to ~3 lbs, to make the Grossy easily usable in one hand. Would love to see how yours is progressing. As others have said, the weight really isn't out of line as is (and hasn't bothered me one bit), but I agree that the bit of weight reduced by this mod will make it easily usable in one hand. Here's a pic almost finished. Still have to smooth out the new back edge with some hand filing and re-polish part of the blade, but the redone profile is, for all practical purposes, done. New weight is 3 pounds dead on, new POB is 4 inches. OK if need be in one hand, rather shines in two, though I haven't tested the cutting to see how much power might have been lost. For all intents and purposes, now it seems to feel quite a bit like a straight or only slightly curved katana. Great point control in two hands though. This could now definitely thrust very well.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Apr 12, 2018 10:48:40 GMT
Nice! My CS had a small bent edge part at the crossguard, an assembling mistake I think, only a few mm. I filed the edge down there to get a bowiesque ricasso of 1-2 cm lenght which looks really nice. Perhaps an idea for yours? Modding a Grosses Messer to a super big bowie, haha!
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Post by 28shadow on Apr 12, 2018 14:37:21 GMT
Very nice.
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Post by cperrin on Apr 12, 2018 22:44:37 GMT
Nice work LeMal! Slow getting started on mine. So far I've removed the pommel, and the scales. Want to remove the guard to modify that too, but will need to remove the threads to do that. Since the tang isn't wide enough to do traditional Messer scales, I may switch it up to a leather or cord wrapped hilt. Not sure yet. Here are some tang pics, in case anyone is curious. There was a lot of glue in there.
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Post by Jordan Williams on Apr 13, 2018 4:49:16 GMT
How is the pommel attached?
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Apr 13, 2018 5:08:24 GMT
It would be nice if you'll post the tang pictures in the Sword Construction Data Base too. A sandwitched welded on rod, interesting.
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Post by cperrin on Apr 13, 2018 22:20:23 GMT
How is the pommel attached? It just screws onto the end, and it glued. I'll take a pic showing that too. It would be nice if you'll post the tang pictures in the Sword Construction Data Base too. A sandwitched welded on rod, interesting. Didn't know about that thread yet (Thanks!). Just posted the pics there, and will add a couple more later.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Apr 13, 2018 22:36:08 GMT
Thank you very much! The threaded rod seems to be welded on the tang in this sandwitch slot. How durable does this weld look!
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Post by cperrin on Apr 14, 2018 2:06:50 GMT
Thank you very much! The threaded rod seems to be welded on the tang in this sandwitch slot. How durable does this weld look! That is correct. I don't think I would trust the weld all that much, if the pommel was my only means of holding the hilt on. Since it uses pins/rivets (and a decent amount of clue) to hold handle scales on, and the threads are truly just holding the pommel, I can't imagine it would fail. I will be using pins no matter the style handle I end up going with.
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Post by LeMal on Apr 14, 2018 2:21:17 GMT
I happen to like mine as I've done it too much (in two hands w/ such nice point control besides maneuverability) to want to mess with it. BUT one thing someone could contemplate, especially given how much weight is in that pommel that's arguably unnecessary, is just making it into a one-hander. I'd suggest doing what I did but then shortening the blade to about 28 inches instead. (Easiest I'd guess from the tang end.) The pommel removed and tang shortened to a one-hander, someone could easily either a) cut threads into the shortened tang and reattach the pommel for a closer POB or b) just go all-wood on the scales and shape the cocked-hat but into them for more blade presence. Still, in the latter case it probably would save a lot of overall weight. I don't know if you have a scale handy for that removed pommel, but I seem to recall a review long ago that said it comes close to a pound???
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Post by cperrin on May 1, 2018 23:20:57 GMT
Just added this to the database too. Pommel weighs 13.185oz Looks like it will still be a couple weekends before I can find the time to grind the blade.
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Post by LeMal on May 2, 2018 5:39:07 GMT
Just added this to the database too. Pommel weighs 13.185oz Looks like it will still be a couple weekends before I can find the time to grind the blade. :( Aha! Pretty much remembered correctly then. It's a very nice-looking pommel, but some could argue excessive in weight, depending on what one wants of final properties. I can see justifying going with a new handle with a simple cap or at least something lighter.
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