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Post by ozblades on Feb 12, 2018 4:43:30 GMT
Hello everyone! New here - recently inherited a couple of swords and wanted to find more information about them. My grandfather was a quiet military man and never talked about his collections so I am in the dark when it comes to these swords, lol! I've had most of the swords and other items stored in my safe, time to pull them out and try and see if I can find out some more info about these! I will post a couple of pictures and would appreciate any info and or help! Not on here trying to sell these - they will remain in my family and will be passed down to my kids when its time. Thank you! Doug
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Post by legacyofthesword on Feb 12, 2018 5:41:07 GMT
Looks like a shin gunto - a Japanese sword from WWII. More than that I can't say.
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Post by ozblades on Feb 12, 2018 5:43:52 GMT
Thank you!
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Post by legacyofthesword on Feb 12, 2018 5:58:56 GMT
Not a problem. Hopefully some of the more knowledgeable members of the forum can give you more details.
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Post by Lancelot Chan on Feb 12, 2018 6:09:11 GMT
Yes, look like a gunto to me from WWII.
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Post by ozblades on Feb 12, 2018 6:46:26 GMT
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Post by Jordan Williams on Feb 12, 2018 14:44:55 GMT
Bottom one is a French Yataghan bayonet, there should be a date on the spine of the blade. Neither are from WW2 though.
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Post by ozblades on Feb 12, 2018 17:29:12 GMT
Bottom one is a French Yataghan bayonet, there should be a date on the spine of the blade. Neither are from WW2 though. Thank you! Its hard to read, might have someone with better eyes look at the date.
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Post by Aikidoka on Feb 12, 2018 19:42:13 GMT
To better identify the shin gunto, you could try this Facebook group, Military Swords of Imperial Japan: www.facebook.com/groups/255263006217/For more detailed information on this sword, you will need to remove the handle so that the markings on the nakago (tang) can be read by someone in that Facebook group.
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Post by Jordan Williams on Feb 12, 2018 19:59:10 GMT
Bottom one is a French Yataghan bayonet, there should be a date on the spine of the blade. Neither are from WW2 though. Thank you! Its hard to read, might have someone with better eyes look at the date. Looks like it dates to 1872, nice little piece. I'm still not sure what the other one is but it looks like it could be for the Enfield Yataghan bayonet.
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Post by MOK on Feb 12, 2018 20:54:38 GMT
The French one is dated July 1872, yes; it's for the 1866 Chassepot rifle. The other one's an Austrian 1867 pattern bayonet for the Werndl rifle, made at some point between 1867 and 1873. The grip looks very typically British, what with the three rivets and all, and some Jungs (there's a handful of 'em with different initials) also supplied bayonets for the Enfield, but the shortened blade (this became a post-production standard for the Werndl) and hooked guard are dead giveaways.
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Post by ozblades on Feb 12, 2018 21:35:14 GMT
The French one is dated July 1872, yes; it's for the 1866 Chassepot rifle. The other one's an Austrian 1867 pattern bayonet for the Werndl rifle, made at some point between 1867 and 1873. The grip looks very typically British, what with the three rivets and all, and some Jungs (there's a handful of 'em with different initials) also supplied bayonets for the Enfield, but the shortened blade (this became a post-production standard for the Werndl) and hooked guard are dead giveaways. Wow, thank you! I had no clue where to start looking and I appreciate all of the help and info! Now I will be able to include some info along with these pieces when they are passed down later on - Thank you all!! Doug
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Post by MOK on Feb 12, 2018 22:11:01 GMT
You're welcome, it's what we're all here for. Oh, BTW, the full inscription on the Chassepot bayonet reads "M re N le de Chât t - Juillet 1872", meaning Manufacture Nationale de Châtellerault, July 1872.
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Post by KaOsBlaKbLaDe on Feb 13, 2018 2:19:56 GMT
Can the tsuka be removed from the nakago? Stampings could help
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Post by ozblades on Feb 13, 2018 2:59:41 GMT
You're welcome, it's what we're all here for. Oh, BTW, the full inscription on the Chassepot bayonet reads "M re N le de Chât t - Juillet 1872", meaning Manufacture Nationale de Châtellerault, July 1872. You rock! I'm excited to share this info with my mother - her father is the one who passed these down and she will be thrilled to hear what I have found. Thanks, Doug
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Post by ozblades on Feb 13, 2018 3:20:57 GMT
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