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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Jan 22, 2018 5:26:56 GMT
Only awesome badass leather biker outfit is sword proof.
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Post by Scott on Jan 22, 2018 5:31:18 GMT
Awesome. The last one looks like dragon scale armor. Is there any evidence for horn used in European armor? I recall reading about the sarmatians using horn armour but can't remember the source off the top of my head.
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Jan 22, 2018 9:21:36 GMT
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Post by SandStormZA on Jan 22, 2018 9:43:58 GMT
I get amused when I see battle scenes where everyone has a sword, even the poor soldiers who should logically only have a spear or maybe an axe. It's as if there's some kind of time-travelling Oprah going "You get a sword, you get a sword, EVERYONE gets a sword!"
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Jan 22, 2018 10:25:29 GMT
Quenching swordblades in blood.
(Urine could work because of the nitrogen as an alloy for better hardness and strenght, or Wayland's goose method. So we also better don't speak of a "blood" groove... And the real name of Roland's sword was Durinedal!)
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Post by Cosmoline on Jan 22, 2018 19:23:56 GMT
Priests would only use blunt instruments in fighting.
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Post by legacyofthesword on Jan 22, 2018 20:00:06 GMT
I get amused when I see battle scenes where everyone has a sword, even the poor soldiers who should logically only have a spear or maybe an axe. It's as if there's some kind of time-travelling Oprah going "You get a sword, you get a sword, EVERYONE gets a sword!" In the Dark Ages, swords were indeed fairly rare. By the High Middle Ages period, there were plenty of cheap swords available to anyone who wanted to buy one. Quenching swordblades in blood. (Urine could work because of the nitrogen as an alloy for better hardness and strenght, or Wayland's goose method. So we also better don't speak of a "blood" groove... And the real name of Roland's sword was Durinedal!) I think blood would work fine for quenching, wouldn't it? Sticking a sword in someone's body to quench it, not so much. Priests would only use blunt instruments in fighting. Right, because "Priests weren't allowed to shed blood". As if smashing someone's head in with a mace wouldn't make them bleed....
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Post by seth on Jan 23, 2018 21:00:31 GMT
Well, I still argue that Conan's father's sword wasn't actually steel but bronze. Hence the "riddle" and Thulsa Doom SEARCHING for true steel. And, either way, keep this in mind: when it went up against the (only example of true steel?) Atlantean version ... it broke! Great theory!
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Post by legacyofthesword on Jan 23, 2018 22:22:43 GMT
Spiked flails (morningstars) were very common weapons.
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Post by LeMal on Jan 24, 2018 4:36:26 GMT
Well, I still argue that Conan's father's sword wasn't actually steel but bronze. Hence the "riddle" and Thulsa Doom SEARCHING for true steel. And, either way, keep this in mind: when it went up against the (only example of true steel?) Atlantean version ... it broke! Great theory! Yeah, everybody gets the whole "Riddle of Steel" wrong to me anyhow. Is Thulsa right, that flesh is stronger? Yup. AND is "steel" (or what passes for it) stronger than flesh? YUP as well! Don't forget that Conan's father's sword, even broken, sure as hell proved stronger than Thulsa's neck flesh. Steel is stronger than Flesh. Flesh is stronger than Steel. It's a bloody (pun intended) Paradox. And given the nature of Milius's mind, that should be no surprise.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Jan 24, 2018 4:40:01 GMT
Crom!
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Post by likehotbutter on Jan 24, 2018 13:05:39 GMT
Movie/tv: Steel swordblades are casted first and then hammered/forged (Conan, GoT). Lol...this actually became a reality in the 18th century onw with the development of crucible steels? Though more rolling mills than hammering The germans even proudly stamped Gussstahl on their blades as a mark of quality
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Post by bluetrain on Jan 24, 2018 13:46:53 GMT
I have my doubts about flesh being stronger than steel, or at least metal, but I have seen references to bone being stronger than just about anything, although I suspect that it, like glass, can be a little brittle.
The mention of armor reminds me of a study of infantrymen's uniforms and equipment written around 1900 by a French army officer. Very detailed and interesting but just a little dated. In his theoretical part in which he discussed what he thought was the best, he covered headgear. Many solders were still wearing some form of shakos at the time or something like the Pickelhaube, still worn in a few places. He thought such things were too great a burden for a man. But I suppose he couldn't imagine the steel helmets that came along in another fifteen years.
Bone might be pretty strong at that, since creating a chipped stone tool or weapon was supposedly done with bone or antlers. I read somewhere that a jawbone of some animals was a good weapon but I don't remember where.
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Post by LeMal on Jan 24, 2018 14:12:36 GMT
I have my doubts about flesh being stronger than steel, or at least metal, but I have seen references to bone being stronger than just about anything, although I suspect that it, like glass, can be a little brittle. Metaphorically, dude, metaphorically. :P
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Post by Zen_Hydra on Jan 24, 2018 17:57:35 GMT
I have my doubts about flesh being stronger than steel, or at least metal, but I have seen references to bone being stronger than just about anything, although I suspect that it, like glass, can be a little brittle. Metaphorically, dude, metaphorically. Also, literally. I have bent and broken steel with my bare hands. There are too many variables and vagueries to apply blanket statements to these particular enigmas.
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Post by bluetrain on Jan 24, 2018 20:16:47 GMT
Well, then, I'll just go back to using rocks.
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Post by Venom on Jan 25, 2018 0:15:32 GMT
An actual conversation with my girlfriend when she saw my swords for the first time
How do you swing those things?
It's not hard takes a bit of practice to get good I'm no expert but I'll show you how if you want
Nah I'll just throw my back out
Why you plan on spinning like link?
No because they are so heavy aren't they like 35 lbs?
.... No xD
So basically swords weigh a lot
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Post by kristian on Jan 25, 2018 21:35:51 GMT
Oh gods, I remember asking one of my co-workers how heavy she thought a sword would be. I don't remember the exact number but it was something like 50 lbs or so. I told her that swords rarely exceeded 5 lbs and she didn't believe me. She said, "Have you seen the swords in GoT? They're huge something something blah blah." Well, it's a TV show so of course they would make it look exaggerated and dramatic. Those dummies don't even wear helmets.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2018 23:00:04 GMT
I remember my mother making a comment about medieval knights being barely able to move because of the weight of their armor. I found those Youtube videos of guys in full plate running obstacle courses, vaulting, etc. She watched them all the way through, then said they were obviously fake because full plate was too heavy to move in.
So... yeah...
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Post by legacyofthesword on Jan 26, 2018 0:07:50 GMT
I remember my mother making a comment about medieval knights being barely able to move because of the weight of their armor. I found those Youtube videos of guys in full plate running obstacle courses, vaulting, etc. She watched them all the way through, then said they were obviously fake because full plate was too heavy to move in. So... yeah...
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