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Post by Heidesskaar on Nov 14, 2017 14:25:59 GMT
No idea about its procedence, but seems to have oriental influence and be of somewhat good quality Any help is appreciated, Thanks in advance
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Post by Heidesskaar on Nov 14, 2017 14:29:39 GMT
Found this two similar examples where its said they are chinese fighting/utility knives, but i don't im not sure if the style is chinese or leads more to other asian knives
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Nov 14, 2017 20:58:43 GMT
It's very Chinese. 19th century?
There are some SE Asian knives with somewhat similar blades (the examples I've seen have been from Burma and Thailand), but the hilts are very different. Your knife is thoroughly Chinese.
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Post by Heidesskaar on Nov 14, 2017 23:28:11 GMT
It's very Chinese. 19th century? There are some SE Asian knives with somewhat similar blades (the examples I've seen have been from Burma and Thailand), but the hilts are very different. Your knife is thoroughly Chinese. Many thanks for the response, do you know by chance the proposite of this knives? Are they simply utility carry knives?
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Nov 15, 2017 6:19:12 GMT
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Post by Heidesskaar on Nov 15, 2017 11:25:38 GMT
Thanks
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Post by Heidesskaar on Nov 15, 2017 15:21:28 GMT
And what do you think about this one? Looks like a small dao
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Nov 15, 2017 22:31:39 GMT
More photos of this one would be interesting, showing the blade edge-on (to show the thickness), and details of the guard and pommel.
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Post by julio_corradi on Oct 5, 2021 5:56:50 GMT
hi , very late reply but these seem to have been manufactured and used by ethnic chinese based on knives used by the mongols and manchus, just like the eating knives... sort of two styles of the same origin. but i think these knvies come from larger belt knives the mongols and manchus carried and the eating knives come fromm their smaller belt knives there is chinese made manchu arsenal ones with manchu writing on them and with long blades 16 inch or so that are very similar the large nomads knives then at some point began getting leaf shaped blades as the chiense made them...the blades begin to flare, get more fullers... and then this almost dagger -like shape appears.. there is quite afew examples of these collected from muslim chinese in what is now parts of yunan. some of these have fabric couvered sheaths in bright colours and some with longer more weaponlike blades. some even with a reinforced tip. the fullering and decoration seems more like central asian, persian ect knives and i suspect ther eis some islamic conneciton that caused their devation ofrom the regular nomads knives they come form.. by comparison int eheating knives look pretty similar to the original mongolian knvies they developed from except the addition of chopstics and other little utensils and some elongaiton of the handle and narrowing of the blade.. these knives however look very different form the knvies they originated out of. it could well be they were produced by some ethnic group with alot of islamic influence in their metla working. after all many of the chiense items have a strong persian influence,, the fullering on the swords, the decoraiton ect.. but these knvies are not a knife unique to a specific group. i would guess these knives began developing into a distinct knife some time in the 18th century. even though they do look very ethnographic. some have arsenal ownership marks showign they were govenrment property.. which would also explain why many muslim chiense had them being the vast majority of ethnic chinese arms in many areas. they are pretty strange. if you wer ejust to look at it youd thing persia,, south caucasus.. or maybe even north africa some place.
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