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Post by RickDastardly on Oct 15, 2017 10:54:39 GMT
Nothing wrong with a good mongrel. A guy elsewhere posted this pieced-together cutlass. I've always like it. Blade is from an Edo period wakizashi, hilt from a Japanese army officer's saber:  (Photo (C) H Anderson) |
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Post by MOK on Oct 15, 2017 14:26:46 GMT
It's not as if historical people didn't do this, too. I mean, think of all the thousands of central European blades on locally made hilts, found anywhere and anytime from viking age Scandinavia to 19th Century India.
FWIW, I see nothing wrong with the sword in the OP, as such. There are plenty of close enough authentic items to call it historically plausible, at least.
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Post by pellius on Oct 15, 2017 14:34:42 GMT
I like your creation. Nice.
I've only been studying historical swords for a short time, but it seems that mixing, matching and rebalancing various features of various swords was regularly done as sword design evolved.
Of course, sovereigns had the resources to craft entirely new swords that incorporated the desired changes (rather than combining pieces from the parts bin). Nonetheless, to me, the idea was the same.
I've seen similar discussions (and condescension) in discussions regarding martial arts in general, with an ongoing tension between "tradition" and "adaptation." What surprises me is that some folks may acknowledge that a given style was historically adapted/modified, yet they resist the idea of adapting/modifying it in the present.
I respect those who place a great deal of value on preserving a style (of weapon or of a fighting style) handed down from antiquity. Nonetheless, I also personally believe there is no "best" solution to any human problem/endeavor that makes adaptation obsolete.
I say mod away.
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Post by viece on Oct 28, 2017 22:20:17 GMT
It's not as if historical people didn't do this, too. Great point. My favorite sword in my little collection is a mid to late 18th c. smallsword with a cut-down 17th c. rapier blade. It's a mutt but works great, and was clearly carried by a serious dueller! |
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Post by Jordan Williams on Oct 28, 2017 22:27:10 GMT
It's not as if historical people didn't do this, too. Great point. My favorite sword in my little collection is a mid to late 18th c. smallsword with a cut-down 17th c. rapier blade. It's a mutt but works great, and was clearly carried by a serious dueller!  Pics? That sounds awesome! |
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Oct 28, 2017 23:16:20 GMT
On a visit at the Germanic Nationalmuseum Nürnberg this summer I've seen many swords with something like a smallsword hilt and any possible kind of blade (ok, except XIIIa).
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Post by viece on Oct 30, 2017 2:09:43 GMT
Great point. My favorite sword in my little collection is a mid to late 18th c. smallsword with a cut-down 17th c. rapier blade. It's a mutt but works great, and was clearly carried by a serious dueller! Pics? That sounds awesome! Middle one in this pic. Second time I've tried posting a pic, hope it works.  |
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Post by RufusScorpius on Nov 20, 2017 15:52:58 GMT
I would also agree with the majority of comments on here that if it looks plausible, then there is no reason why it can't be done- as long as it's safe. I would suspect that back when swords were in daily use that the owners would try to keep the steel blades as long as possible and swap out the fittings to replace worn or broken parts, or even to try to keep up with the latest in sword fashion. Logic dictates that sword owners on the lower rung of the economic ladder wouldn't think twice about mix-n-match, whereas the wealthy would simply purchase a new blade when the old one broke or wasn't in fashion any more.
Then also you must take into account that the sword in question is your own personal property and you can do anything you want with it, no matter what other people think. If it makes you happy, then I say go for it!
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Post by RufusScorpius on Nov 20, 2017 16:03:41 GMT
I like your creation. Nice. I've only been studying historical swords for a short time, but it seems that mixing, matching and rebalancing various features of various swords was regularly done as sword design evolved. Of course, sovereigns had the resources to craft entirely new swords that incorporated the desired changes (rather than combining pieces from the parts bin). Nonetheless, to me, the idea was the same. I've seen similar discussions (and condescension) in discussions regarding martial arts in general, with an ongoing tension between "tradition" and "adaptation." What surprises me is that some folks may acknowledge that a given style was historically adapted/modified, yet they resist the idea of adapting/modifying it in the present. I respect those who place a great deal of value on preserving a style (of weapon or of a fighting style) handed down from antiquity. Nonetheless, I also personally believe there is no "best" solution to any human problem/endeavor that makes adaptation obsolete. I say mod away. Yes, agreed. But with a caveat. An antique sword in "factory" condition should be preserved- it then becomes a benchmark of historic reference. Without this factual reference point, then we would really know nothing about the past save what is handed down in legend (think straight "ninja" sword for example). As such, I feel any modification to such a blade is a crime against humanity. For a modern reproduction blade, not so much. If it pleases the owner to try to have a sword that is as accurate as possible to the original sample, then that's a great way to enjoy this hobby. Likewise, if an owner wants to take a modern reproduction sword and turn it into a 24th century zombie killer, then in my view that is also an equally great way to enjoy this hobby. For my point of view, I don't see why we can't have it both ways. It really doesn't have to be an "either/ or" equation. Go ahead and take an example of your favorite sword and make it as accurate as possible, then take another one and experiment with it. Both can be a fun learning experience. |
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Post by Ifrit on Nov 25, 2017 21:42:13 GMT
I love mixing and matching sword parts. I don't really care much about history or anything like that. I would rather have a unique sword customized to my own uses and specifications. I got a few I did, but I will upload later
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Post by harrybeck on Nov 25, 2017 22:39:53 GMT
Here's a recent one from the flank company blade deal. Attachments:
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Post by Jordan Williams on Nov 25, 2017 22:44:22 GMT
Here's a recent one from the flank company blade deal. Cold Steel spadroon hilt? Boy that looks great. |
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Post by harrybeck on Nov 25, 2017 23:44:06 GMT
Yes it is, but I removed the side guard because it tends to rub against my knuckles.
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Pics? That sounds awesome!
