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Post by Jordan Williams on Oct 14, 2017 16:42:04 GMT
The response I got from a chap on MyArmoury, when he saw my broadsword/mega spadroon/squat pallasch sword.  So that got me thinking, what's the opinion here? I've seen some pretty cool combos of Euro and katana, but thought it'd be a fun topic to talk about. I like Sabre or similar furniture with straight blades. I think the combo looks cool. If you don't like it, why's that? If you do, what would be your wanted combo? |
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Oct 14, 2017 17:22:40 GMT
Yoohoo! Frankensword, frankensword frankensword...  |
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Post by Jordan Williams on Oct 14, 2017 17:22:55 GMT
I love it and would like to see some hilt pics, too! No reason to not mix things up if it gets you what you want. This looks super nice, really.  Hilt actually feels pretty nice, but the wire is obtrusive. |
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Oct 14, 2017 17:44:43 GMT
For me it started with the search for lighter hilt parts for my Windlass Munich, in the moment I've swapped the pommels of the Munich and the 15th Cent. Longsword.
What I'd like to see:
Mainz gladius or a XIV blade with a protective saber guard.
1840 HC Saber with a Pommel as counterweight.
Tazakatana.
Dao with a roman gladius hilt.
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Post by pgandy on Oct 14, 2017 19:01:12 GMT
If a fellow wants to play around, why not?
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Oct 14, 2017 19:04:52 GMT
Excelent, for a real good frankensword we need your fruit and birdseed basket and a thunderstorm.
Do you have a laboratory coat?
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Post by Jordan Williams on Oct 14, 2017 19:42:17 GMT
Nice, Jordan, nicely done! Is the handle glued on or just a tight fit? What kind of handle is that? Where did you get the blade from, what is it? +1 on Andi's suggestions. Thanks!  It's a nut with a tension washer and regular washer (washer on bottom, then tension washer, and then nut) under the grip, and then on top of the grip a washer and round nut. I got the blade in a trade with Hatchback, I think it's the old Windlass regimental broadsword. I got the guard and grip from DGW, and the pommel is from a Windlass M1840 with the cap ground down. For me it started with the search for lighter hilt parts for my Windlass Munich, in the moment I've swapped the pommels of the Munich and the 15th Cent. Longsword. What I'd like to see: Mainz gladius or a XIV blade with a protective saber guard. 1840 HC Saber with a Pommel as counterweight. Tazakatana. Dao with a roman gladius hilt. Hmmmmmm I want to buy one of the cheap gladius on eBay now... |
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Post by 28shadow on Oct 14, 2017 20:58:55 GMT
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Post by 28shadow on Oct 14, 2017 21:00:20 GMT
I'm going to grab one of those cheap deepeeka 1860 saber hilts and smash a Hanwei practical rapier blade into it to the best of my ability. Make a nice spadroony like thing I think.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Oct 14, 2017 21:20:24 GMT
Here are possible Munich/15th Cent. crossovers:   I didn't fix them but #1 would only need a little bit of filing, #2 would be more work. |
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Post by Scott on Oct 14, 2017 23:57:19 GMT
I'm all for historical accuracy but really it only matters if you're trying to make a replica or historically plausible piece. As far as mixing sword elements from different cultures it was done often enough so go for it. I think your sword looks great Jordan.
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Post by Afoo on Oct 15, 2017 2:11:00 GMT
Personally, I like to maintain at least some plausibility when mixing and matching pieces - make something which could have existed at a given time etc. That said, I am not going to poop on someone else's tastes or opinions like the folks the OP mentions - what you do is your business. As far as your creation goes - I'm not the biggest fan, but its possible that the angle of the pictures does not do it justice. The blade looks a bit too big but its hard to get a correct sense of perspective. Have you considered hatchet pointing it though? Reminds me of something I saw with bfoo2 where someone mounted a 1796 LC style blade on an 1821 British cavalry 3-bar hilt. Yours is similar, but with a 1796 HC (style...ish) blade instead |
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Post by Jordan Williams on Oct 15, 2017 2:23:53 GMT
As far as your creation goes - I'm not the biggest fan, but its possible that the angle of the pictures does not do it justice. The blade looks a bit too big but its hard to get a correct sense of perspective. Have you considered hatchet pointing it though? Hmmmm. I have considered tapering the blade profile, but hatchet pointing it and shortening it a sounds like it could make a fun sword... Also yeah, it's completely oversized, but also bad pictures. It's about 50% times larger than the Mle 1822. |
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Post by Afoo on Oct 15, 2017 4:20:46 GMT
As far as your creation goes - I'm not the biggest fan, but its possible that the angle of the pictures does not do it justice. The blade looks a bit too big but its hard to get a correct sense of perspective. Have you considered hatchet pointing it though? Hmmmm. I have considered tapering the blade profile, but hatchet pointing it and shortening it a sounds like it could make a fun sword... Also yeah, it's completely oversized, but also bad pictures. It's about 50% times larger than the Mle 1822. I figured it would likely be the pictures. Am curious to see it if you had a full on side view. I am also biased and like hatchet points in general....:P |
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Post by 28shadow on Oct 15, 2017 4:35:50 GMT
I like your big monster of a sword, but you've got my favorite guard on it so it's hard for me to not like.
Love the 1840 with all my heart. Don't hate me for it.
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Post by Jordan Williams on Oct 15, 2017 4:53:59 GMT
I like your big monster of a sword, but you've got my favorite guard on it so it's hard for me to not like. Love the 1840 with all my heart. Don't hate me for it. And I love the 1860  But the 1840 is still a more technically impressive sword lol |
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Post by stormmaster on Oct 15, 2017 6:05:30 GMT
Mixing and matching parts is so much fun, and I believe historically people would of been mixing and matching things instead of making completely new swords anyways
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Post by Lukas MG (chenessfan) on Oct 15, 2017 7:00:54 GMT
I have nothing at all against mixing parts as long as it remains (somewhat) plausible. Not so much because I'm a historical accuracy freak but mainly because otherwise it generally just looks plain wrong to my eyes, being so used to studying originals and high-end replicas.
So I actually quite like your sword up there, Jordan. Sabre hilts with wide, straight blades absolutely existed. I would not, however, appreciate a katana with medieval fittings for example. Or (a pet peeve of mine because quite a few people do that to my great disappointment) a roman leaf blade with medieval fittings. Ugh.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Oct 15, 2017 7:39:26 GMT
Plausibility and historical accuracy are important in the field of replicas. I hate such wrong things in historical movies in tv series as hell. And I think there often is a reason why historical swords were made as they were, they worked best this way in their whole context. But also it might be that some frankensword combinations would have been made if the smiths of those times would have had the technology, material or simply the idea. I think it's ok to try out such mixes to see if they could work in some way. Or just look cool. So I like to watch such experiments and hope there is a moment to cry out: IT'S ALIVE, ALIVE! Another thread here remembered me the mythical Bavarian animal called "Wolpertinger", which is set together from parts of different animals.  So perhaps I'm influenced by my cultural heritage.  |
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Post by stormmaster on Oct 15, 2017 8:19:07 GMT
ah yes plausible is a good way to put it, we dont know every type of sword there was so if something is plausible then its good to me
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It's a nut with a tension washer and regular washer (washer on bottom, then tension washer, and then nut) under the grip, and then on top of the grip a washer and round nut.
But the 1840 is still a more technically impressive sword lol
