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Post by freq on Aug 14, 2017 11:16:10 GMT
So... Aztec Dwarves.... with magic glass.... Are you thinking what I'm thinking? Dwarven Macuahuitl!  Bronze and wood body! Mageglass edges! Sucks against armor, but pre-enchanted due to the glass and will chop the head off a horse! Edit: Now also in obsidian! Black is the new black! Longer than a knife, choppier than a spear! For when you can't afford Mageglass but still want to make the other dwarves jealous!
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Post by sevicler on Aug 14, 2017 11:32:53 GMT
Wow. People are really on a roll these days  Loving the new ideas. One question: would it be possible to have say a Coronatite (magic metal) blade combined with mageglass decorations that actually further help enhance the blade's power? Or we can use mageglass for runesmithing and talisman-making. That's one hell of an industry for the dwarves. Sounds like a technical question, and one for the magic page. It would depend on the magical properties of metal. I always assume metal is hard to enchant compared to wood and stone and the organics used in potions. Cold iron is supposedly anti-magic so steel might only just be able to hold an enchantment due to the carbon content. In this vein, rather than enchanting the steel through the various complicated process that force magic into metal and bind the two, one might "cheat" and inlay an enchanted gem/stone/stone. A blade with gems isn't going to have quite the same effects that one can achieve with the effort of a magic-imbued steel blade since the steel itself is not magical, but you have an easier time enchanting the stone than you do steel, and more leeway with spell effects because some more subtle spells that steel can't hold would be present in the stone. Also the stone can be removed and re-used in an amulet or staff or what have you. I'm thinking gemmed swords have the same properties as most amulets or staves, so you'd be unlikely to get a sharpness enchantment out of a gem, but a protection would work just fine. Ah, right, so the enchantments are more for utility and versatility rather than increasing the blade's inherent properties and qualities. That makes sense. This is absolutely perfect for Lhasian Talismancer magic. Maybe the Lhasians import huge quantities of these mageglass from the dwarven lands for very cheap prices, process them into working talismans with its own unique properties, and then export them elsewhere with higher prices. The dwarves themselves probably only have a very basic grasp of talismanic magic, which means they don't really mind selling a lot of their mageglass to other countries. |
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Post by freq on Aug 14, 2017 11:40:40 GMT
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Post by celegon on Aug 14, 2017 18:55:18 GMT
what do you guys think of an atlantis type parallel? a long destroyed civilization that can explain where certian rare artifacts and weapons originated
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Post by onekelvin on Aug 14, 2017 23:15:51 GMT
what do you guys think of an atlantis type parallel? a long destroyed civilization that can explain where certian rare artifacts and weapons originated Mmmm... maybe. That's what they did in the Elder Scrolls though, with the Dwemer. I think a Mexica-style civilization of dwarves will little access to iron is a little more original. It would explain their metalsmithing skills and their reverence for steel. I mean, in a civilization like that a smith would be the ultimate aspiration right? Working this rare material would be almost a religious thing - the priests draw it from glass, forge it into ingots, the guy who gets to work it would have to be the best of the best. It would also make for a very interesting first contact scenario, and subsequent cultural issues. Imagine if tomorrow aliens showed up and all of the sudden platinum and uranium were as cheap as plastic, then mix that with these aliens all being able to casually work the miracles of your favored god, atheists can just imagine them doing super-advanced alien stuff, and if you are that one guy who well and truly believes in ancient astronauts and what have you: congratulations, you were right all along. (Everyone still thinks you're nuts though.) That is the feeling that would the dwarves would experience. For some, it would be an opportunity - the materials and fields of study reserved for the elite and the advanced now available for the average dwarf. For others it would be their entire live's work being made irrelevant. And for others it would still be an opportunity, the metal is now common: all the more chances to put your time-honed skills to the test and experiment in ways that would have been considered too wasteful or frivolous before. And of course when there's an entire wealthy, barbaric civilization, the military progress of which has been retarded by lack of weapons-grade material, you are going to have lots, and lots, and LOTS of adventurers.  No guns of course... (are there?) so less like Cortez, more like Prince Caspian. But if this glass is truly valuable, and if the dwarves have gold, then you will have adventurers of every stripe showing up to barter, trade, or kill them. I mowed through entire dungeons of orks for lesser things; considering the moral compass of the average RPG adventurer why should native dwarves be any different?  |
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Post by onekelvin on Aug 14, 2017 23:30:36 GMT
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Post by celegon on Aug 14, 2017 23:41:02 GMT
in my mind, the new world has survinging thunderlizards/dinosaurs
so i decided to incorporate that into the tribal designs.
the one on the far right is bronze
EDit: oh I agree that the primitive dwarf idea is more original, I didn't mean to imply that the atlantis idea would replace them or anything, just if we think there is a need for more additional lands and lore.
I've been Interested in Mesoamerican culture and history for years, it never ceases to fascinate me.
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Post by celegon on Aug 15, 2017 0:06:51 GMT
They could even make a mold from their glass blades for casting bronze in the same shapes |
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Post by celegon on Aug 16, 2017 0:44:12 GMT
found this online., hes a bit over armoured for our worlds dwarves but it could still be possible inspiration  |
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Post by admin on Aug 21, 2017 3:26:56 GMT
Just a very quick update - I was making excellent progress on the dedicated site until late last week.. During this time I was getting some broken emails from the host telling me that I needed to verify my WHOIS information by clicking on a link. But there was no link, the email kept coming in broken.. Since the site had not been launched yet I thought, "add this to my to do list" and keep working.. (After all, I would not think the WHOIS listing is important for a site that is not even public yet).
Well, just before it came time to back up, my host in their wisdom decided to deactivate the site because I had not clicked on the unclickable/broken link.. And for the last 5 days the site cannot be accessed to work on and I am not sure if all the many hours of work (and I mean MANY, I had been burning the midnight oil on this one big time) are even intact anymore..
I have been on the phone countless times trying to sort this out but now waiting for the weekend to finish so someone can look at it yet again and try to restore access so I can pick up where I left off.. But it has certainly 'broken my stride' and set back the beta launch date from the end of this month to sometime next month..
Very frustrating, especially because I am brimming with ideas but cannot see what I have done so far to make sure it meshes.. (i.e. there is a detailed timeline covering events over a 9000 year period, and its all locked away in the site that I cannot access and am not sure if it has all survived their brutal and sudden de-activation).
So that's why everything has stopped dead for a bit. Will update you all again once things are back in motion - fingers crossed it will not take too much longer (trying to fix this has actually made it worse at the hosts end, they have tangled it beyond belief) and that everything will still be there when they finally do.
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Post by celegon on Aug 21, 2017 5:11:40 GMT
dang.. i hate to hear that, i hope you'll be able to recover the majority of it
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Post by Ifrit on Aug 21, 2017 7:24:54 GMT
Don't worry yourself paul. Your doing amazingly. This world is one of the more detailed that I have ever seen.
Thanks for the opportunity and thank you even more for the effort you put into it
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Post by sevicler on Aug 21, 2017 7:31:45 GMT
Don't worry about the timeline, Paul. I've managed to save the page as an HTML file so all the text and images are OK. If you want it I'll email it to you.
Unfortunately I didn't save any other pages other than the timeline.
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Post by Ifrit on Aug 21, 2017 7:51:32 GMT
I'm sure all these hardworking guys will be more than happy to share their previous ideas. Tons of hard workers in this subgroup, each who are very worthy of praise
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Post by onekelvin on Aug 21, 2017 7:52:42 GMT
www.squarespace.com/I have heard many good things about the square space, if you're not too attached to your current site provider. Don't know if the current provider is like free or something, but SS is $12 a month for 20-page private website, and $18 a month for an unlimited-page business site. Edit: Dunno how far you're planning to go or how much it's worth, but at those prices you could run the website for a lifetime for the cost of an Albion longsword. And if those fantasy swords ever go into production... I'm getting one of those gladiī, that's all I'm saying.
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Post by admin on Aug 22, 2017 4:02:54 GMT
Phew, finally got the thing working again - no data loss and was able to back up everything, so we are back in business! (yay). Anyway, appreciate the support and kind words folks - with regards to hosting, right now its cheap because it is not getting any visitors. But to be as robust as SBG it will need a pretty heavy hosting plan as it is image heavy and I want it to be fast loading and with zero downtime. Not entirely sure of the cost, but to give you some idea the forum is around $250 a month, so only 4 months = an Albion.. ;-) But it will be worth it - if it breaks even I am happy! :-) If it makes a profit, even better, as I will reinvest that into more art and designs.. LOVE the idea of the Aztec Dwarves - I have a concept of a rather large, adventurous and gregarious princess of Aelutia who is an Richard Branson style adventurer and flies in a Jellyfish ship to explore new parts of the world. She has supposedly seen the edge of the world (Eletrues is FLAT. Lol) and found the Aztec Dwarves recently, and they thought she and her crew were gods.. And some have come back with her. So first contact has just happened..  |
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Post by celegon on Aug 22, 2017 4:34:15 GMT
awesome! im happy you managed to recover it all.
so eletrues will be the name of the world? also maybe since the world is flat we could give little hints to " those who dwell beyond the edge" in sort of a lovecraftian theme
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Post by sevicler on Aug 22, 2017 5:29:52 GMT
Wait, Elatreus is flat? When did we discuss this? Lol
This makes things interesting. I need to re-read my sci-fi books to find out what life is like in a non-spherical world and picture it correctly in my stories.
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Post by admin on Aug 22, 2017 11:16:39 GMT
It could be changed before the official launch, but I think a flat Eletreus is indeed interesting and possible for a high magic world like this one.. This is the image that inspired this concept and is currently featured as the background image for the dedicated site:  A sailors worst nightmare right? Lol. The primary deities are the sun and the moon, and the moon governs the seas - so I am guessing that IF this picture is accurate, then all the water that cascades off the sides is continually replenished. So the effect of approaching the horizon would be a bit like a black hole - on the edges it would start pulling ships in until in a short period of time they would be swept away - and unable to tell anyone what they saw.. Of course, the princess could also be lying - she is known for embellishing her tales and not letting the truth get in the way of a good story. For practical day to day purposes, I would not think it would make a difference and the surface still has some curvature to it, so there are still horizons, etc. It could well be round, but everyone thinks it is flat - and they definitely believe that the sun and the moon go around the planet, as in their belief systems the sun and the moon created the world at the first eclipse.. (i.e. the planet came into being when they aligned/briefly became one, and is more or less like their child). Either way, makes for an interesting mythos. It would be easier if it was the classic 'flat earth' with ice keeping the water in, but prefer it cascading over the edge and being replenished evenly somehow by the power of the moon goddess or something. There ARE places not on the main map - but contact is either limited or non-existent. So far we have to the East of Lhasa the 'Harmonious Isles' (Wakoku, i.e. Japanese inspired civilization that is busy doing its own thing fighting Hobgoblin Daimyo) and the hot jungles to the South West of Aeulutia. There may be others, but no ships have been built to attempt exploration, and the Jellyfish ships have liminations too (my thoughts are that they are only fully active when the moon is visible - when it is not in the sky, they lose altitude and tend to be just blown by the winds, requiring a very skillful crew). I suppose that with all the wars and trouble, exploration would not be a huge priority until recently - thus the princess is a kind of Christopher (Christina) Columbus. Hmm, not a bad name for her - Princess Kristina Kalambius. Lol. |
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Post by onekelvin on Aug 22, 2017 18:26:12 GMT
This page has some good ideas concerning a flat earth.
www.askamathematician.com/2012/08/q-if-earth-was-flat-would-there-be-the-horizon-if-so-what-would-it-look-like-if-the-earth-was-flat-and-had-infinite-area-would-that-change-the-answer/You still have a horizon if the earth is flat. The earth is so big that for all intents and purposes it might as well be flat from the ground, the only difference is that from the top of a large mountain you could literally see the entire world. Also is it an aetherium too? (Air-filled universe?) If it is, and if gravity is like in the article uni-directional, you could indeed travel to other planets in an airship. Hmmm.... What if the planet was alive? What if the whole thing was the top of some eldritch creature/god that floats through the void absorbing water from the free-floating clouds or trailing tendrils along the bottom of the universe where it's hot?
The planets could all be living void-borne creatures, and all the life on top of them would be technically parasites. The Gods would be symbiots that provide the creature with extra energy, and in return they keep the balance of life so that it doesn't run rampant and kill the planet.
The creature gains energy from the walls of the universe and the center of it converts energy into mass, feeding the creature and creating the infinite water. If the creature dies, then the water dries up and you end up with a "dead" planet like Mars.
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