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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2017 6:32:35 GMT
About to order THIS... simply because i definitely like it! So i dont just care too much about hystorical correctness, but: * IS / WAS there a chinese sword of this type? * IS / WAS a full brass/bronze type grip used anywhere / anytime? * WOULD a safe grip construction be possible (peening, pinning?)? * COULD the balance be good / OK? Thanx for hopefully incoming input, guys... |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2017 6:36:11 GMT
Data from the CHINESE EBAY VENDOR (EEEYAAHHHRRGHH!!!)! Yes, yes, i know, i know... but please: NOT THAT special type of feedback comments, please... ;-)
Overall Length: 44.80 inch / 114.00 cm (approximately)
Nagasa (blade) Length: 29.90 inch / 76.00 cm (approximately)
Handle Length: 13.30 inch / 34.00 cm (approximately)
Blade Width: 2.12 inch / 5.40 cm (approximately)
Blade Thickness: 0.27 inch / 0.70 cm (approximately)
Tang: Full Tang (very safe for practice)
Blade Hardness: 58 HRC
Blade Material: Traditional Hand Forged Multiple-refined pattern steel + Hand Lapping and Polishing in whetstone仕上砥 + Ancient methods old traditional method quenched hardening heat treatment process
Saya Material: High Quality Aged rosewood Or leather Or Aged rosewood + Copper (Scabbard Optional)
Handle Material: High Quality Copper
Fittings Material: High quality engraved Copper
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Jul 29, 2017 7:05:09 GMT
* IS / WAS there a chinese sword of this type? No. It's part yataghan, part khyber knife, with a funky two-handed grip. * IS / WAS a full brass/bronze type grip used anywhere / anytime? Sure. European briquets (both "gladius" and sabre types), some European hangers, tulwars. Of course, also seen on many bronze swords. Metal hilts are also seen in other metals, including iron, cast iron, silver, aluminium, various zinc alloys (on cutlasses, smallswords, kukris, tulwars, kora, khanda, and many more). Wooden hilts with a complete metal covering (often silver) are also out there: dha, a famous sword of the Qing emperor Kangxi, fancy Indonesian swords, Moro kris, some barongs. * WOULD a safe grip construction be possible (peening, pinning?)? Sure. Historical safe construction includes: glued in with resin (the modern version: use epoxy), pinned through the grip, peened at the pommel, hilt cast in place onto the tang. * COULD the balance be good / OK? If the handle is solid, copper alloy (rather than less dense zinc-aluminium), and this long, it's unlikely. I see that a listing for this sword says 3160g. If that's the sword alone, without scabbard, then rather excessive for 76cm/76.5cm of blade. If the hilt was mostly hollow (and filled with resin/epoxy) or a metal skin over a wooden core, good balance (and weight) would be easy enough. Assuming that the blade has distal taper. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2017 7:10:50 GMT
Morning, Timo! Figures that it is YOU... ;-) This sword is from that strange chinese movie "Dragons Blade" starring two Hollywood guys - Cusack and Brody, if i remember corrctly... and of course: Jacky Chan (vroom, vroom)! I thought it to turn out as something fantasy, but i am OK with that. The weight... well, the Rick Barrett superdao i own by now is... NOT on the light side EITHER, so to speak... xD Attachments:
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Jul 29, 2017 10:49:11 GMT
The sword looks really good to me!
A bit like orcrist (olclist?).
I hope data says the truth, all the high quality and ancient methods blingbling.
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Post by pellius on Jul 29, 2017 18:19:38 GMT
Interesting looking sword.
Two of those (in the pics) look like they have edge damage at the habaki, though. Not sure if that's a concern or not...
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Post by harrybeck on Jul 29, 2017 18:24:35 GMT
That's quotes the baseball cap jackies wearin.
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Post by Faldarin on Jul 29, 2017 18:58:15 GMT
It looks kinda like a dao-ish version of Altair's sword (the sword that launched a thousand SLOs). At least this doesn't seem like a SLO. Timo already mentioned the weight, but it looks like a fun sword!
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Post by stormmaster on Jul 29, 2017 19:09:17 GMT
looks fantasyish chinese to me, nothing wrong with a chinese type sword coming from china  . you say its full tang but is it peened or threaded or what? looks functional at least, mind telling us the cost? that might factor into it |
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Post by William Swiger on Jul 29, 2017 20:11:09 GMT
I looked it up on EBay. Cool sword but not sure if I would pay that much directly from China.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2017 21:52:07 GMT
THATS the point, Big Bill... decisions!
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Post by jeff190 on Jul 29, 2017 22:05:20 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2017 4:28:08 GMT
hmmm... sounds ALITTLE cheaper, doesnt it? :-/
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Post by stopped1 on Jul 30, 2017 13:49:49 GMT
My Biggest issue with Chinese sword forges is that most of the non removable handles will house skinny tangs for ease of fitting. I have had clay tempered dao with beefy blade and nice hamon but a skinny tang, and many jians. These days I just ask sellers to make me blades in shirasaya and mount them myself.
Not possible in your case (well's too much work to mount THAT anyway)I guess at least ask the seller how wide the tang is, so seller will tell you, most don't...... Another trick is to ask them to make you a sword with removable handle like a katana, again, gonna be hard with this blade. It looks so bad ass tho....
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. you say its full tang but is it peened or threaded or what? looks functional at least, mind telling us the cost? that might factor into it
