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Post by stopped1 on Sept 4, 2017 9:08:41 GMT
That would be why they are sword-LIKE, and not sword-actually. Well, considering spears and knives came well before swords, I'd argue that swords are knife-like, but not spear-like. It's like arguing that dogs are giraffe-like because they have four legs and a tail... Well I could point out all you guys are wrong (and I am always right, even when I am wrong). The people who invented Nagamaki or Pudao did not use terms like sword and and pole arm, not even knife. Everything double edge is a jian/ken, everything single edge is a dao/katana(to) and then you get spears.... BTW is a musket with a sword bayonet a SLO or PLO? And does a rifle man become a pike man when they slot the bayonet in place, or does the transformation happens when one takes the bayonet out of the scabbard?
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Sept 4, 2017 9:25:51 GMT
.. or a RLO? And is the rifle man with the rifle not in his hands a RMLO? Questions, questions...
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Post by randomnobody on Sept 4, 2017 10:11:04 GMT
Arguably the words you're arguing are the words you're arguing against. This if also neglecting the folks who "invented" the glaive or the seax, because those words are different. As for a rifleman fixing bayonet, I'd argue that yes, he becomes a spearman, depending on the methods of bayonet fighting employed. WW2-era and prior, when rifles and bayonets were still very long, bayonet fighting was very much spear fighting. These days, what's a bayonet? But we all know what the thread is asking.
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Post by stopped1 on Sept 4, 2017 10:42:42 GMT
Well the way we talk, we are all SLP (swordsman like person), all talk, no action. Think I need to redeem this by buying more swords, the next Aus Arms Auction catelogue just came online, no guns of interest to me this time, but a few swords
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Post by stopped1 on Sept 4, 2017 10:50:40 GMT
And I've just realised that there are still SLO's I would like to get. A SLO is supposed to be a thing that looks like a sword but cannot reasonably be expected to be used in combat in any capacity right..... So who doesn't want this object, one that nobody in their right mind would use in combat
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Post by randomnobody on Sept 4, 2017 10:56:53 GMT
That little thing? Watch me.
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Post by stopped1 on Sept 4, 2017 11:54:57 GMT
That little thing? Watch me. Sept 4, 2017 20:50:40 GMT 10 stopped1 said: one that nobody in their right mind would use in combat I didn't say it never.... but.....
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Post by randomnobody on Sept 4, 2017 15:06:10 GMT
Thing is, if one felt up to it, the series you shared could actually be used with some tweaks to a pre-existing fighting style.
As we all know, a "sword-like-object" is an item designed to bear the appearance of a sword, sometimes quite convincingly (long, sharp, steel blade; be it one edge or two) however lacking in structural elements suitable for sword use, ie welded-on stick tangs, hollow handles, etc.
An object in the shape of a sword with the construction properties to match that is simply larger than practical is not, inherently thus, not a sword...but it is very much an impractical design. Granted, in the case of large Japanese swords (and doubtless other cultures) these giant swords were often created as religious offerings. Gifts to supernatural entities, many believed to be very large by human standards, thus necessitating their gifts be larger as well. Then there's the whole "Look what I can do" element of making a very large sword...
Then we have spears, axes, halberds, and all the other pole weapons. Some of these are even longer than that sword, but were used on real battlefields by real soldiers in real wars. Compared to spear-like objects, like the things you can unscrew from their hollow staff with more open holes than metal...
There's even an argument for knife-like objects. I've seen numerous designer-style knives I'd never regard as practical cutting tools and a few I simply don't trust the construction...
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