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Post by smilinsmilodon on Mar 31, 2017 22:30:55 GMT
I have been wracking my brain all week trying to figure out how one could possibly assemble a sword like that without using a threaded tang. Is it even possible to make a peened ring pommel that doesn't have the tang extend all the way through the ring? I honestly cant think of a way to do it, especially in a space as small as the pommel on Narsil. I don't have pictures but you all know what Narsil looks like anyway. Anyone have any ideas?
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Post by Aikidoka on Mar 31, 2017 22:53:02 GMT
Forum member brotherbanzai has done it before:   |
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Post by smilinsmilodon on Apr 1, 2017 2:10:25 GMT
Very interesting. I wonder how he did that. Can you give me a link to the original?
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Post by Aikidoka on Apr 1, 2017 2:16:28 GMT
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Post by SandStormZA on Apr 1, 2017 8:51:57 GMT
I haven't seen any close up pictures, but maybe the tang and pommel are all one piece? Maybe the pommel was forged as an expension of the tang, and the handle slabs were attached afterwards.
Or it's magic. Good ole, lazy answer, magic.
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Post by pound752002 on Apr 1, 2017 10:06:57 GMT
If I remember correctly, there was a time when Peter Lyons discussed about how he assembled Narsil/Anduril/Glamdring. He mentioned that they were all press fit together with epoxy.
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Post by Brendan Olszowy on Apr 7, 2017 2:52:48 GMT
If I remember correctly, there was a time when Peter Lyons discussed about how he assembled Narsil/Anduril/Glamdring. He mentioned that they were all press fit together with epoxy. Correct. Held together with Glue, as were others like Sting, Hadhafang, and Orcrist. Can't say I'm a fan trusting glue, though if you knew how many Hanweis were held together by nothing but glue - with peening being only for looks but completely ineffective. I don't know if they've fixed their processes altogether, but that's how they were in the middle of last decade. I was reshaping a pommel on the beltsander back in '07 and once it heated up the pommel just slid off under it's own weight. Do however consider that you have options like TIG/MIG welding or braizing the pommel to the tang before assembling the grip. (depending on materials - even silver solder is better than glue). Stainless is a prick to try to solder or braize. Another choice is to rivet a pin across the pommel stem through the tang stub, then blend in the finish. |
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Post by Verity on Apr 7, 2017 5:12:37 GMT
Could you not overbuild the tang and then punch it through? The actual opening is pretty small. Seems you could make the tang wide enough to have a cutout without being structurally unsound?
I have been pondering this myself for a rehilt project
Eg you peen as normal then do the cutout, presuming your tang has enough width at the point of the cutout...?
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Post by Verity on Apr 7, 2017 5:17:18 GMT
Second option I can think of is set up the peen block at the grip side of the cutout... cut the hole into the cutout but not through it. Hot peen the pommel down and the tip of the pommel warps the tang into place... then re-cut out the hole cutting off the end of the tang after it has been hot peened down into the recess....
Gonna need some delicate work to make the recess into the bottom of the cutout, and not a lot of room. But hey... we all like a challenge right?
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Post by 1776 on Apr 8, 2017 20:01:14 GMT
There is also the option of doing it like fellow forumite Brendan Olszowy (from Fable Blades) did.  I think he did a fantastic job. And you don't have to do that tricky peen. I never even noticed he didn't do the pommel exactly like the movie Anduril, until now. |
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