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Post by Dave Kelly on Mar 21, 2017 0:20:26 GMT
Some luck this evening. 7 wasn't quite as old as I thought. Southern Sword in UK still has it for sale. Simply called, "Flaired Longsword". No luck locating 8. It's not the Tralee. Nice try, since the hilts aren't really visible. The sword is a bastard broadsword, with a single finger ring over the quillon. So far, can't find it. ( I think I need to reserve the Atrims so I can drag the swords out of the corner and give all a good look. Shame on me!) As to the Principe vs the Alexandria: I just like the Principe hilt. I would think the two swords are pretty equal in performance. Cheers |
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Post by Dave Kelly on Mar 21, 2017 0:25:00 GMT
Ok, now we need. 1. Total number of unique pieces. 2. Approximate dollar value. 3. Home address. 4. Alarm code. 5. Dates you are on vacation. Please don't go there. That line of thought drives collectors away; even in jest. |
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Post by Elrikk on Mar 21, 2017 2:13:30 GMT
Ok, now we need. 1. Total number of unique pieces. 2. Approximate dollar value. 3. Home address. 4. Alarm code. 5. Dates you are on vacation. Please don't go there. That line of thought drives collectors away; even in jest. Very sorry, no harm ment... |
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Post by Dave Kelly on Mar 21, 2017 3:15:05 GMT
Understood. No problem. Rather not tempt fate.
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Post by tilite on Mar 22, 2017 9:20:30 GMT
What a great collection. Like you're display of them a lot.
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Post by Dave Kelly on Mar 22, 2017 10:27:27 GMT
What a great collection. Like you're display of them a lot. Thanx. ;) ( I need a bigger space.) |
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Post by Jussi Ekholm on Mar 22, 2017 16:56:11 GMT
Very nice to see this update Dave. When you look at 1 2 3 you go whoa, but there is still 4 5 6 7 8 to come.  |
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Mar 22, 2017 17:59:44 GMT
I need a bigger space. "Sword Collector's Mantra" |
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Post by tilite on Mar 23, 2017 8:22:00 GMT
What a great collection. Like you're display of them a lot. Thanx.  ( I need a bigger space.) I know that feeling. A few years back i had a talk with my girlfriend, she told me she needed a bigger wardrobe closet. I told her i understood her dilemma because i needed more space for my weapons. So now she's my ex girlfriend, and i had some more room for my weapons. Today i find myself in need of more room again. Think i"ll have to talk to my new girlfriend  |
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Post by Dave Kelly on Mar 23, 2017 10:00:31 GMT
Thanx. ;) ( I need a bigger space.) I know that feeling. A few years back i had a talk with my girlfriend, she told me she needed a bigger wardrobe closet. I told her i understood her dilemma because i needed more space for my weapons. So now she's my ex girlfriend, and i had some more room for my weapons. Today i find myself in need of more room again. Think i"ll have to talk to my new girlfriend 8-) errrr...good luck; on both fronts. |
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Post by Turok on Mar 25, 2017 11:34:06 GMT
How historically accurate is the US 1850 staff and field officer's sword by Windlass? I've noticed that there is many different versions of that model. Did the originals have a leather or rayskin handle, or was it up to whoever ordered the sword?
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Post by Dave Kelly on Mar 28, 2017 0:39:28 GMT
There were over 28 comapanies providing 1850 officer swords. Sahrkskin was the basic wrap used on the majority of grips. The current Windlass offering is rather vague as to origin. Good for reenacting. (I still have one. It is a place holder. ) |
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Post by Elrikk on Mar 29, 2017 0:24:37 GMT
You know you could totally open a museum, I would buy tickets to see your house...lol.
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Post by scotty on Mar 29, 2017 5:58:58 GMT
This is going to be under construction for some time. 15 Mar 2017
Aaaargh!!! Major hit on my desk top. Routine scan by Malwarebytes took out something in Windows that won't allow the screen to stay up. No luck getting to bios from a blind start either. Have to pay taxes, then get a new desktop, and slavge my old hard drives. This may take a while 
Collection 2017
INTRODUCTION:
It's almost two years since I last did a complete update. The old file was started in 2010. After several server moves and even more hard crashes, the old file was getting very tough to manage, and wouldn't give title changes any more. ( We won't even mention the last big butt crash...er, I did.)
1. 200BC - 1000AD
Ancients is a small portion of my overall collection. 1200 years summarized with 10 swords.
The swords weren't the driving motivation for the display. Stationed in Germany in the 1970s I visited a lot of Roman sites. Cleves in the lower Rhine was a legion site and Capitol of Charlemagne later. Remember a nice old Roman museum there. First thing to greet you in the alcove was a full dress imperial legionaire. The memory stuck. It was something I wanted to do soon as I started my disease. Most of the items are Deepeeka. A few acessories from Windlass finished the piece.
(top to bottom) 1. Old Phillipine VA gladius. The hilt is non reg, but an excellent weapon. 2. Movie tribune gladius from "The Eagle". Legion Officers were well paid and their kits were more elaborate. 3. New VA Hispaniensis. Too big. 4. and 5. Deepeeka spatha. Accurate but clumsy. 6. Windlass Migration Period Sword. Dark Ages. Sweet sword. 7. The Ulfbert. Perennial. 8. Windlass Suontaka. Really not a bad piece. 9. Deepeeka Aalen Spatha ( There is a 10th Sword. The Legionaire carries an old Mainz beater.
One of the newer Deepeeka entries: the Aalen Germany spatha. The helmet for an Imperial cavalryman of the 3d Century AD. Both the Helmet and the spatha would become common wear for both horse and foot soldiers in the late empire.
Roman Republic: Officer helmet on the left and a Gallic converted Montefortino A foot helmet. Used to buy a lot of Deepeekas from Ming Loo in California; when nobody else had them in stock. They went under in 2016. KoA is now the US Deepeeka distributor.
2. Medieval 1050-1500
Tucked away in the corner, between my premium swords, are ten classics from the economy class retailers.
1. Hanwei Edward III sword. 2. Windlass Arbedo. 3. Windlass Classic Medi old. 4. Windlass Classic Medi new. 5. Hanwei Albrecht II type XVIII. 6. Windlass classic German type XVIII. 7 and 8. Windlass researching. 9. Windlass Sword of Roven. 10. Windlass 15th Cent ring hilt. Addition to the racks there are two overhead Great Swords: A Windlass Ravenna above the ATrims and a Windlass English great sword above the Albions.
2004 was the beginning of a new Golden Age of the ancient sword. That date seems a slam at some of the ground breakers who started up the retail marketing of reproductions to the general population. Not so. There was a maturation process where craftsman and scholars had to revive the technology to produce weapons historically valid, opening up a market to enthusiasts that was once the privilege of scholars and museums.
Gus Trim was an idol when I found my way to SBG. Known for a fine blade. His early hilts were at best functional. By 2008 the market demanded that he match competitors. The end result has been spectacular.
1. The original Christian Fletcher/ATrim Austrian War Sword. A sleeper. Not many made in this form. The XIIa.4 has since been a best seller. 2. Sometimes referred to as "moonbrand". 4 fullered sidearm. 3. My first type IX. The revelation of the wonderful hex bladed sword. 4. XIa monster the equal of the Albion baron. A John Marino handoff. 5. Type XVIa a torpedo like design. Another great sword. 6. Recent vintage XVIIIa two hander. another classic Atrim with a sharp deliniation from midshaft to foible. Superb balance. 7-8 The short-lived Evolution series, with blued furniture and red leathered grips. Hi polished blades. The side sword 1557 is sword #1 in the series. I got up earlier that morning than anybody else. What I failed to do was buy a matching XVIIIa to go with it. Somebody else got that honor, starting the medi daisho fad. Several years after the fact I got the XVIIIa from John Marino, again. 9. An older model ATrim. The square grip and bottle cap pommel of another period. The blade type is androgenus. Handles great of course. 10. This is one of the few Trim blades to be found on a Sonny Suttles VA signature sword. A limited edition, and my only ATrim with a scaabbard. (LOL) There is one more ATrim.
Albion swords was the merger of the entrepreneurial smarts of the Waddell's with the contracted services of Peter Johnson of Sweden: a superstar in the science and history of medieval sword craft. Laughingly,the Lady Vivamus was my first Albion. A type XVII came along with it. The XVII won my heart. The Vivamus owns my ass.
1. The Principe. Type XVIII renaissance monster. excellent handling beast. 2. Arms and Armor Reichschwert. Type XI horse longsword. 3. Albion type XV. Said I didn't like it. Finally held one, and felt stupid. 4. Albion XVIa. Prefer my ATrim. 5. Albion type XVII Landgraf. Lovely, and a nasty b**** in the bargain. 6. Type XVIIIa Earl. Hollow ground beauty. Always wanted. Doesn't disappoint. 7. Gallowglass. Type XIXa. Wasn't interested in the furniture, but desperately wanted the blade. Only 100 made. This hit the secondary market and I grabbed it first. 8. A ATrim complex hilted XVIII. Early work. (The bottle cap pommel tell.) 9. That is my J Curry wtfo sword. It doesn't belong there. I need to reshoot the pic. 10. Tinker Pearce/Hanwei Great Sword of War. Great starter longsword, underpriced for what you get.
3. 16th-18th Century
The (buff leather) sueded jerkin and long coat were a signature style for light cavalry all over Europe, throughout the 17th Century. Getting belts and gloves in buff is tough today. There are some English specialists who do such work, at a premium. This model wasn't on my list of wants. Found Medieval Collectibles in Australia. Damn if they didn't have a base kit for it. The long boots come from a NW dealer in cheap Chinese pig skin reenactor boots. The sword is a Hanwei antiqued mortuary. The pistol is from Spain.
Kit of King Pedro II of Portugal. From Metropolitan Museum NYC.
Daveydoo pimped out for the Ren Fair.
Discretion and the gaining of 20 lbs forced me to give way my princelies to young charming.
Many new faces in this set in two years.
1. Windlass Henry VIII cut and thrust. Rehilted Townton. 2. Windlass Saxon hilted side sword. Original in the French Army Museum, Paris. 3. Windless Munich Town Guards cut and thrust. Comes in a set with Main Gauche, which I do have. 4. Windlass English Cut and Thrust sword. 5. Windlass Schiavona Broadsword. 6. Windlass Double Ringed Broad Sword. 7. Windlass Saxon hilted back sword. 8. Windlass blackened Saxon hilted side sword with Sonny Suttles grip and scabbard. I loved the handling of this small sword so much, I boxed it with my 7 ring rapier and had Sunny do it up. Brilliant! 9. Cold Steel transitional rapier. Short blade and no ricasso above the quillons. 10. A&A Military Rapier. A return to a type XV styled sword.
17th to 18th Century swords. 17th Cent saw the eventual departure of the complex hilts everywhere except Spain, where it was the second religion. 18th Cent saw the proliferation of the saber all over Europe and the introduction of the small sword/courtsword; a weapon that changed sword fighting technique forever.
1. Hanwei Cromwell Sword. 2. German Haudegen. A mod of the Walloon with a slight, but full, basket and in this case a 36 inch long, elliptical blade. Suprisingly well balanced and quick, bespeaking it's great popularity. The cavalry Haudegen became the first registered, standard weapon of the French Army, in 1680. 3. Windlass Saxon hilted cut and thrust sword. Early 16th Cent German model. 4. Cold Steel Mortuary Sword 2016. large hilt and light bladed. Ahistoric, but 21st century comfortable. 5. Windlass Egilton basket hilted backsword. VG+. 6. Cold Steel Polish Sabla. Big sabre. Too heavy for a side sword. War sword for a stout horseman. G. 7. Windlass German Dragoon. Simple primative design. Effective weapon. G. 8. Spainish 1760 Dragoon. Classic Bilbo. Long military service, and also worn by private gentry. 9. Spanish 1796 Dragoon. larger than the 1760. Sword had a short service history due to Napoleons invasion and the fashion changes in arms. 10. 1788 German saber. Widely accepted prototype for western cavalry sabers in the Napoleonic period. British unjustly besmirched it's performance in the rush to reform their cavalry. Lot of these around the antique world still. VG.
Spanish 1796 Dragoon
Spanish 1760 Dragoon
Imperial Kurassiers of 30 Years War. Pistols in bucket holsters draped over the pommel. 3/4 armor with buff coates and bucket boots.
4. Rapiers
There are 10 rapiers visible in display, with daggers; however there is an 11th. An A&A Musketeer is hiding in the left stack.
Top to Bottom: 1. A&A Saxon Elector's Guards Rapier/Broad Sword w/MG and scabbards. 2. Windlass Christus Imperat English Rapier w/WIndlass Diavolo MG. 3. A&A Spanish Bell Guard Rapier w/ Windlass Munich MG. 4. A&A 7 ring Rapier w/ DelTin German sail guard MG.
Two seperate buys of swept hilt Rapiers. 1.Windlass in brass. Older model. Most of the brass weapons are no longer in the catalog. 2. The second Rapier is a mystery. Sold to me as an A&A model, but the blade is short. The scabbard smacks of old A&A.
Sex shot. The scabbards are Suttles for the sword and KoA for the MG. The baldric is from Ravenswood. Gloves are occasionally sold by Windlass.
Fearsome face courtesy of the removal of 14 teeth and the wearing of only the lower partial.
Perfect fit.
1. Cervenka Cavalryman's set. Wonderful! A favorite. 2. Windlass cup hilt Rapier. w/ Crocadile Dundee Main Gauche. Lots of boiler plate here. The nickle plate and wire adds a lot of weight. The blade is very large and stiff. 3. Windlass Pappenheim Rapier. Popular style, but hard to find repros. Dagger match is a Cold Steel small sword dagger. 4. Darkwood Pappenheim Rapier. My first Ravenswood was their monster clamshell/3 ring rapier that I did up in wire and largest blade. Was a tank. Year later, and a lot wiser, I went back and ordered the Pappenheim specked out to lose weight and gain balance. The result is a 2.4 lb Rapier that handles like a fencing epee. One of the last 20 swords I part with.
5. Small Sword, Court Sword, Spadroon
Windlass with a copy of Angelo's English translation of the French Small sword method.
Cold Steel, Windlass and Weapons Edge swords.
Angelo himself. The 1st edition had copies made up for royal patrons with the illustrations hand colored. Most of these were later disarticulated and the colored illustrations sell handsomely as antiques.
Angelo's sons and students modelled for the illustrations in the book.
6. 2100 years of Helmets
1. Corinthian Iron helm. 2. Corinthian a la Sparta. 3&4. Thracian infantry helm and Boeotian Cavalry helm representative of Alexandrine military. 5. Roman officer helm. 6. Republican Montefortino A infantry helm. All by Deepeeka.
After the Montefortino A: 1. Gallic G Roman Centurion display. 2. Imperial Roman Cav helm. 3. Berkasovo Germano-Byzantine warlords helm. (All Deepeeka) 4. Valsgarde Viking. 5. Coppergate Viking. 6. Phyrgian long nasal helm. (GDFBs) 7. Flat top early great helm. (Windlass)
(L to R) (GDFB) 1. Pig faced helm. 2. Sugar loaf helm. 3. German Salet and bevor. 4. Burgundian champfered pot with bevor. 5. 16th Cent Morion. (Deepeeka) 6. Burgonet with falling buffe. ( Amouronline. CZ ) 7. Simple lobster pot. 8. Imperial Austrian Zischagge.
7. Napoleonics
How can anybody come into my sphere and ask me what is most dear to me of my collectibles? Duuh!
The classic military artwork is mostly from Allen Cranston Arts UK. Retails tons of the stuff. Allpost in the US and in the UK has a lot of historical prints also. His framing isn't too costly, but remember you have to ship it internationally. My local awards and framing shop can do large art frames for 160.00 a piece. Can't beat that, unless you do it yourself.
The Cuirassier kit is bits and pieces. The helmet was from Empire Costume The helm core was original from a theater. They rebuilt the rest with pieces from the shop. The cuirass is from Deepeeka. It is not French period. Sort of a mid 19th Cent Dutch. There are a handful of interfaces for buying made to order repros. They are expensive. Empire costume occasionally finds stuff. This past Christmas they came up with an exchanged display helmet and cuirass that they wanted 1000.00usd for the helmet and 750.00 for the cuirass. I didn't have any reserves left, and the cuirass vanished in 2 days.
My historical interests could be satisfied with the collection of repros. But I fenced saber for 17 years. Picked up one antique Cuirassier pallasche and said Oh f*** no!!! The repro was totally out of balance and useless as a point weapon. The real sword was a 3 lbs surgical instrument requiring minimal effort for parry and thrust. I still get hi end repros to take the place of 4 figured historic pieces, but 85% of my 19th Cent collection is original sabers and swords.
1. WEI Heavy Cav Off Garde de Bataille pallasche 1804-1810. 2. Imperial Garde HC Enl Sabre. 3. Empire Cos. Imp Gd Off Chasseur a Cheval sabre. 4. 1804 Imp Gd LC Sabre. 5. WEI Imp Gde Arty Trains Off Sabre. 6. Empire Cos Imp Gd Foot Grenadiers Off Sabre. 7. Empire Cos. Imp Gd Mamaluk shamshir. 8. Empire Cos. Imp Gds enl foot marines cutlass.
1. WEI Imp Gds HC enl sabre. 2.WEI Imp Gds enl 1804 LC sabre. 3. Unknown repro M1804 enl LC sabre. 4. WEI Garde du Corps off 1814 for Louis XVIII. 5. WEI British Household Cav Dress 1814 pallasche. 6. Windlass Shamshir. 7. Cold Steel Shamshir (Windlass bladed).
1. Fr HC Officer Garde de Bataille1804-1810. 2. Fr Cuirassier pallasche. Manuf March 1815. Probable Waterloo capture. Lousy refurb job early 20th Cent. 3. Empire Costume Carbinier pallasche 1804-1810.
4. Fr AN IX LC Cav Officer sabre. 5. Fr LC XI enl LC Sabre. 6. Fr 1791 Hussar Officer Sabre. 7. Empire Cos. Fr staff off sabre. 8. Dutch 1814/1830 enl cav/trains saber (1814 cav, refit in 1830 for trains troops.)
(l to r) 1. Fr Off of the Mounted Grenadiers of the Imp Gds. 2. Empresses Dragoons of the Imp Gds. 3. Ist Cav Lancers of the Imp Gds (Polish). 4. Fr Chasseur a Cheval of the Imp Gds ( The Emperor's Children). 5.Carbiniers 1810 armored helm. 8. "Les Grognards" (grumblers) Imp Gds 1st Regt Foot Grenadiers.
Imp Gd mounted Grenadier.
Imp Gd Empresses Dragoon
Imp Gd Officer of the Chasseur a Cheval
1810 Armored Carbinier. The term Carbinier predates the acceptance of the Dutch term Dragoon. The Carbiniers convinced the revolutionary tribunals that they were loyal, thus the oldest regiments of the cavalry survived to the 1st Empire. Their original attire was a red on blue Mounted Grenadier uniform, but their mauling at Wagram convinced Napoleon they should be armored. There was some envy in their ranks because Napoleon had not considered them for the Imp Gd. Compensating Napoleon had named them the 1st Bde of the 1st Div of the Heavy Cav.
8. 1820-1918
Miscellaneous
The center rack represents swords I fancy as unique in style and or performance. (T to B) 1. Lady Vivamus is the queen of style. Performance wise it is a fat lady. 2-5. Swiss 1876-96 sabers. Beautiful cavalry swords. The style is Austrian, but the quality goes to Swiss design. 6-8 Italian Dragoon 1831-1909 Original design was a stodgie Napoleonic design with many blade types tried before they settled on the English 1821 blade. The 1860 and 1872 are classics. 9. Dutch 1895 Cav Off Saber. Great Design. Useless dress saber blade. The hilt looks French 1880, but I discovered some years back that that hilt design was first used, by KIRSCHBAUM, in 1843! Nobody picked up on it at the time, and it got resurrected by the French. 10. The 1898 Argentine enlisted Grenadieros. There are no German 89 pipe backs, that I've held, that I've any use for. The Grenadeiros intrigued me because the blade had a saber curve and is 34 inches long. When it arrived I was stunned. One of the best damned sabers I have the privilege to own. If you find one with it's markings intact, don't be stupid. Grab it.
Albion Swords, Lady Vivamus Saber with Sunny Suttles Scabbard and Ravenswood baldric.
Swiss M1876 and reduced M1896 enl cav sabers.
( T to B ) 1. M1831 Italian Dragoon. 2. M1860 Italian Dragoon. 3. M1872 Italian Dragoon.
France
British
(T to B ) 1. P1821 enlisted cav saber LC. 2. P1853 enlisted cav saber HC/LC. 3. P1864 enl cav saber HC/LC.
German
Scandinavian
Spain
United States
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Post by scotty on Mar 29, 2017 6:26:23 GMT
I really don't know if I am doing this right - I have never joined a forum before (yeah, I know, I'm a Luddite) but if I am at all understanding correctly....
Dave Kelly, your collection is amazing - I was wiping away drool and at risk of hyperventilation as I scrolled through - a fine lifetime's collection of really impressive items.
I got the impression (apologies if I interpreted wrong) that you are considering parting with several pieces. If this is the case, I know that in short order you will soon feel overwhelmed, even offended, by the beating wings of circling vultures. But, as I meant no disrespect, I include myself amongst the grasping talons. I would like to ask about some of your treasures.
After a hiatus, I have re-engaged with re-enactment groups out of Jamestown VA (1607 AD) and Henricus VA (1611 AD). As such, the buff-coated ECW ensemble you have is so very appealing. I don't understand the 'I wanna buy your stuff' protocol of this forum, but I would love to discuss virtually everything this mannequin is wearing. So I hope to, I dunno, chat/message/e-mail/discuss here?
With all courtesy and respect, I wanna buy your stuff.
Thanks, Scotty
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Post by jimmythegreek1984 on Mar 30, 2017 5:21:39 GMT
Just curious, but what is a WTFO sword?
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Post by HazMatt on Mar 30, 2017 17:00:05 GMT
Wow!
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Post by Dave Kelly on Apr 1, 2017 4:03:44 GMT
I really don't know if I am doing this right - I have never joined a forum before (yeah, I know, I'm a Luddite) but if I am at all understanding correctly.... Dave Kelly, your collection is amazing - I was wiping away drool and at risk of hyperventilation as I scrolled through - a fine lifetime's collection of really impressive items. I got the impression (apologies if I interpreted wrong) that you are considering parting with several pieces. If this is the case, I know that in short order you will soon feel overwhelmed, even offended, by the beating wings of circling vultures. But, as I meant no disrespect, I include myself amongst the grasping talons. I would like to ask about some of your treasures. After a hiatus, I have re-engaged with re-enactment groups out of Jamestown VA (1607 AD) and Henricus VA (1611 AD). As such, the buff-coated ECW ensemble you have is so very appealing. I don't understand the 'I wanna buy your stuff' protocol of this forum, but I would love to discuss virtually everything this mannequin is wearing. So I hope to, I dunno, chat/message/e-mail/discuss here? With all courtesy and respect, I wanna buy your stuff. Thanks, Scotty Welcome back scotty! Do us all a favor and delete your first message. Don't need to repeat that huge photo set. The buff coat and armor came from Medieval Collectibles of Australia. Belts, gloves and pants from MRL or KOA, The sword is a Hanwei practical mortuary. The Boots are from an Oregon family company that sells chinese pigskin reenactor boots. Very reasonable price. Get catalog pics of the items, then take them to the parks reenactors and get approval for style of the items. You don't want to grab a kit and then be told you can't use it. Send me a private message and will be glad to help out best I can. I wouldn't look forward to disassembling that mannikin. Store mannikin's are nudists at heart. They fight you hard to keep you from putting stuff on them. Cheers |
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Post by rebane on Aug 12, 2017 6:35:30 GMT
Just amazing. It's like having a living history switchboard. One could ponder each replica for days. Channeling the men who wielded them and what they fought for. I'm sure they inspire a ton of reading as well. Very impressed and very jealous!
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Post by Dave Kelly on Aug 12, 2017 12:49:03 GMT
It's like having a living history switchboard.
Perfect
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( PS: To call the collection "replica" is only true in the context historical exemplar. 85% of the modern service swords and 15% of the 17-18th Century swords are period pieces. )
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