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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2008 21:42:06 GMT
id go with the KC but then again we are all different
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2008 9:02:15 GMT
That KC does look very nice, and I like the pommel better than the RS, seems like it'd be less likely to go flying out of your hand if you got to swinging it too... emphatically. That's a fairly steep price jump (I'm always hesitant to spend money on stuff for myself, so if I decide on the KC it probably means I'll wait a bit longer to get it...) but if it's worth it, it's worth it.
Could someone give me a brief rundown of the pros and cons of differential hardening? I'm vaguely aware of what it is, i.e., cooling the blade in such a way that the edge is harder than the spine so that the blade is flexible but can still retain an edge, but what does this mean to a backyard cutter going after water bottles, pool noodles, and maybe eventually tatami mats (maybe...eventually)?
Hey, thanks jpfranco, I appreciate you taking the time to measure your CAS and put up a picture!
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Post by YlliwCir on May 30, 2008 15:18:02 GMT
Personally, I don't care for the DH. Some say it's better because the blade is more likely to bend than break. I don't want it to do either. LOL I'm kinda hard on my blades, I prefer TH.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2008 8:03:23 GMT
Okay... Based on what I actually want to do with the sword (backyard cutting) a bit more than aesthetic appeal, I think I'm gonna go with the Gen2 and perhaps thin down the hilt a bit like Brenno and Daniel did theirs. I'm not going to forget about the Rittersteel, because I still do like that blade better, but I've got more confidence in the Gen2 based on the feedback I'm getting. The RS Celtic sword can wait a while. I'm kinda bummed that the fittings on the G2 aren't brass anymore, but I feel like the near-certain quality of a G2 is worth more than the brass on the Hanwei.
Thanks guys, for all your input! It was really helpful in deciding, and even gave me a few options I didn't know I had. When I end up getting it I'll be sure to put up some pictures, and maybe even some video of me trying to cut up some water bottles. Dunno exactly when that will be, mind you... but we'll see.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2008 12:57:24 GMT
i was wondering if the CAS one is peened or threaded and is it a good cutter ? thank you
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Post by jpfranco on Jun 1, 2008 13:43:17 GMT
The Cas is threaded and most likely epoxied. As far as cutting, it is a decent cutter but you will need to sharpen the edges since Cas "sharpened" blade are not really sharp.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2008 16:56:57 GMT
many thank you,s , good sir
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Post by bpogue on Jun 3, 2008 21:24:25 GMT
Here it is: Overall length: 30 inches Blade length: 23 1/4 inches Blade width: 1 7/8 inch Weight: 2 lbs 12 oz jpfranco, Actually, this is the old model produced in the philippines. The current sword (and object of discussion) is now made by Hanwei. Listed specs are the same but the weight is a bit more at 2lb 15oz. I'll have our website updated with basic measurements soon. Blake
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2008 8:17:24 GMT
Here it is: Overall length: 30 inches Blade length: 23 1/4 inches Blade width: 1 7/8 inch Weight: 2 lbs 12 oz jpfranco, Actually, this is the old model produced in the philippines. The current sword (and object of discussion) is now made by Hanwei. Listed specs are the same but the weight is a bit more at 2lb 15oz. I'll have our website updated with basic measurements soon. Blake Oh, thanks for the update! Much appreciated. Perhaps this will require just a little bit more consideration on my part.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2008 1:02:30 GMT
form vs function, an ancient dilemma
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Post by shadowhowler on Nov 26, 2008 20:24:50 GMT
I have two SLO celtic swords that look just like the KC and Ritter Steel one. A very attractive looking weapon... I ware my SLO's to Ren Faires, I love the look of it. I might worry a little about it's actual function... there isn't much of a guard to keep your hand from moving towards the blade in a hard thrust. The VA Celltic sword is VERY differant from all the others, as far as I can see. It's a full length sword... some 28+ in of blade, and it weighs around 4lbs. All the others... the Hanwei, KC, Ritter Steel, and Gen 2... there are shorties, around 20 in and closer to 3 lbs. I think the VA would be weird... but I've never laid hands on it. I'm curious about the Hanwei one... I've been looking for this style of sword myself, and was most likely leaning towards the Gen 2 because of it's good reviwes, and because other Gen 2 short swords have held up pretty well, and my own Gen 2 sword (The Chaos sword) is also really good. However... I'm now considering the Hanwei. Let me know which way you decide.
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Post by YlliwCir on Nov 26, 2008 21:34:07 GMT
KC vid from a while back.
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Post by shadowhowler on Nov 26, 2008 21:45:49 GMT
Ric... you are a cutting machine. You do more cutting before 9am then most people do all year. ;D I like you'r multi-stand setup. I'm going to set something up like that... looks a lot more fun then just refilling one stand.
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Post by YlliwCir on Nov 26, 2008 21:51:18 GMT
Thanks, Howler, I learned it all from ShooterMike. I'm thinking about your question about the thrusting capabilites. When I get a chance I think I'll try that out on my tire pell.
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Post by shadowhowler on Nov 26, 2008 21:58:55 GMT
Thanks, Howler, I learned it all from ShooterMike. I'm thinking about your question about the thrusting capabilites. When I get a chance I think I'll try that out on my tire pell. Yeah... Mike *IS* the man. I wish I had 1/8th his sword collection, not to mention his gun collection. Jealousy, it's a bad BAD thing. Not that you need me to tell you this, but DO be carefull thrusting hard with that Celtic sword. It looks exactly like my SLO verssion... and mine has less then a half inch of curved potrusion from the top of the hilt... it feels to me like on a hard thrust, my hand could travle up over and onto the blade. You'll probably be fine as long as your hands are not sweaty/slippery... but I worry.
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Post by YlliwCir on Nov 26, 2008 22:09:16 GMT
I have some kevlar gloves from my work, I'll wear one to be on the save side and skip the oil.
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Post by shadowhowler on Nov 26, 2008 22:13:00 GMT
Hehehe... Yeah, thats a good idea. I look forward to seeing it thrust, hopefully without slicing up your hand. Is this the same KC that you gave a set to some time back?
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Post by YlliwCir on Nov 26, 2008 22:20:15 GMT
Yes, same one tho still a good sword, in my opinion.
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Post by YlliwCir on Nov 27, 2008 23:45:22 GMT
I did some thrusting and durablity tests on my poor abused Kris Cutlery Celtic sword today. I started the thrusting wearing a kevlar glove as it was a concern that the hand might slip past the small guard on a hard thrust. At no time did my hand feel like it would slip down the blade. The kevlar actually made for less of a grip (kind of slippy feeling) so I removed it. The round grip did make the sword want to turn in my hand on some of the strikes. I did the cutting after the test to demonstrate that it still cut well after the abuse. Here are some pics to show how the blade held up. before; After; As you can see, the blade is bent a bit in the second picture. Not supprizing considering the stress applied and it being a DH blade and had taken a set previously. After applying a good amount of pressure I returned it to true. I also had to file out some nicks from the steel belts in the tire. ;D
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Post by alvin on Nov 28, 2008 0:13:32 GMT
That sword can take some abuse !! ( Sword Abuse..Sword Abuse !! ;D ) Thanks for the vid Rick. Catchy tune. + 1
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