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Post by chemiann on Jan 28, 2017 22:38:40 GMT
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Post by Verity on Jan 28, 2017 22:51:50 GMT
Very much NOT a traditional nihonto.
Two possible options:
1.) Chinese fake trying to pass off as an antique, and not even a well done one. 2.) Is an antique of some sort but was a tourist "cheap" blade. (Yes they DID have those back in the day. Antiques with ivory handles and such...
Key points: 1.) reverse etch on the kanji. No... just no... 2.) improper shaped kissaki (of any flavor; this is a terribly executed chu-kissaki) 3.) very exaggerated and coarse hada. Almost like a garish pattern weld from Pakistan. Even mokume (wood) grain typed forging was tight and crisp. Not wide like this. 4.) not differentially hardened from what I can see. lol If you like it, buy it, but this is NOT a nihonto. Buy at your own risk.
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Post by Well thats me on Jan 28, 2017 22:52:03 GMT
PS. I've just heard that the kanji's on the 4 photo means "guarantee for 5 years" Big Grin idk what to think
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Post by CHemian on Jan 28, 2017 22:58:24 GMT
Very much NOT a traditional nihonto. thank You for answer! Well, I saw that rest but the blade looks kinda crappy, but I though that maybe someone just had a rare blade and made sempriniesque rest... But looks like even the blade isnt too good :/ Soo, its not worth 150/200 dollars, isnt it ? Good night btw
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Post by Verity on Jan 28, 2017 23:01:28 GMT
Very much NOT a traditional nihonto. thank You for answer! :) Well, I saw that rest but the blade looks kinda crappy, but I though that maybe someone just had a rare blade and made sempriniesque rest... But looks like even the blade isnt too good :/ Soo, its not worth 150/200 dollars, isnt it ? :P Good night btw :) Value is in the eye of the beholder. I cannot speak to whether it is "worth it to you". I can say it is not a traditional Japanese sword. I suspect it isn't even antique but instead made to look so. I personally would not touch this with a 10 foot pole.
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Post by Verity on Jan 28, 2017 23:04:48 GMT
Very much NOT a traditional nihonto. thank You for answer! :) Well, I saw that rest but the blade looks kinda crappy, but I though that maybe someone just had a rare blade and made sempriniesque rest... But looks like even the blade isnt too good :/ Soo, its not worth 150/200 dollars, isnt it ? :P Good night btw :) This may help you in your hunt for antique Japanese swords: www.jssus.org/nkp/fake_japanese_swords.html
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Post by Chemian on Jan 28, 2017 23:06:11 GMT
Okay, thank you. Looks like you are smart, and I was probably hoping to find someone who will just encourage me to buy this "masterpiecie" damn!
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Post by Verity on Jan 28, 2017 23:11:05 GMT
Okay, thank you. Looks like you are smart, and I was probably hoping to find someone who will just encourage me to buy this "masterpiecie" damn! Finding a nihonto for $150 is rare. It CAN be done but is usually a bare blade with rust and possible flaws and in desperate need of polish. For a "decent" katana that is a genuine nihonto in mounts your starting price point is likely around $3000-4000. Exceptions exist and blades can be found in need of polish and/or in shirasaya, but you will very rarely find a good blade for $150. If you look at my collection thread you will find what $150-200 will get you if you are lucky by seeing the Kaga Wakizashi I own. It has rust pits and is in desperate need of a polish to bring her back to life. I am still unsure if it can be brought back. Certified togi generally have long wait lists and charge approximately $80-100 PER INCH to properly polish a nihonto. So also bear that in mind if you start considering rusted but original blades. If you are looking for a nihonto I may be able to point you in the right direction but you'll have to give guidance on what you are willing to spend. $150-200 is likely a non-starter.
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Post by chemiann on Jan 29, 2017 0:28:22 GMT
Well, its not like I MUST have a nihonto for now. I just saw this one, it had some cool story "its old sword from my grandpa which lived in Japan" (or something like that) and I though maybe that's the one! But! Now I'm a poor, poor guy... (I could barely afford 150$) But maybe someday I just love blades! Got a kanetsune takumi yari (Bought new for 40$ <reason i'm starving now btw >) and I just love it. Few days ago, first think I did with it was cutting some ham for gulash and I was really touched, almost shed a tear Good night
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Jan 29, 2017 5:51:57 GMT
PS. I've just heard that the kanji's on the 4 photo means "guarantee for 5 years" Big Grin idk what to think or "ULFBERTH"
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Post by Ifrit on Jan 29, 2017 6:09:01 GMT
I have a katana that's quite similar. Right down to the habaki, painted handle and scabbard, brass/copper fittings and the inscription on the blade. It's even folded steel.
Don't bother. It's cheap stuff. It's not even heat treated right and the blade is heavy while the tang is small and feeble
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Post by pellius on Feb 3, 2017 22:39:33 GMT
That "ULFBERTH" thing was funny.
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Post by LG Martial Arts on Feb 5, 2017 1:45:53 GMT
I'm on my phone, so really can't post links right now, but it's safe to say the sword in the pics is a Chinese repro due to the fact almost no extant Japanese made nihonto, gendaito, or shinsakuto have kanji on their blades. Even though I'm on my phone, I can also discern that the blade has a "Damascus" pattern on it, which is not traditional for Japanese made blades. A true Japanese made blade will have activities (small and regular patterns which suits the Japanese aesthetic) on the blade, but will never have anything resembling "Damascus", or anything "loud" like it. .
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Post by seriouslee on Feb 5, 2017 3:43:24 GMT
Looks like bad etching, not even "folded."
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