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Post by irondog on Nov 30, 2016 17:46:16 GMT
So myself and Darth went up to a training get together in Maryland this past weekend and had a really awesome time. A lot was learned and a great time was had by all. It really was an outstanding event and everyone was just awesome. I am looking forward to going again in January. I came away with a good deal of new techniques and insight, however, a few of the many sparring sessions I picked up a 6ft staff and a shorter training stick. Basically simulating short spear and long knife and this style felt really good. I have since ordered a training spear, and a few other goodies. Also ordered a training shinai seeing as mine broke. it will be mourned. Getting to the point, does anyone know of a good place to buy a good short spear looking for around 6ft length overall.
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Post by legacyofthesword on Nov 30, 2016 20:30:47 GMT
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Post by irondog on Nov 30, 2016 21:28:08 GMT
Awesome. Thank you very much.
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Post by stormmaster on Nov 30, 2016 23:11:33 GMT
the Assegai short spear by cold steel is really short, but its the best one for its price.
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Post by demonskull on Dec 1, 2016 0:38:05 GMT
RedMichael has a bunch of stuff on sale in the Classifieds: The following is a quote from his ad. Check out the last Item. You'd need to mount it
Some of you may have noticed my abrupt disappearance from the web. Sorry about that. Yes, much is happening in life. Happenings have happened. I may be going to new places (no, not prison). Things must be done. Money must be had, and swords must go away. It's all very sad. But enough of that. Unfortunately, I need to liquidate my collection as best as possible. Most aren't worth much, but as a bulk buy this could be a great deal on zombie choppers for somebody. Everything sold as-is. All prices are base, shipping will be added. Shoot me offers if you want multiple blades.
1. Cold Steel MAA Messer, good condition. Sheath included, not pictured. $120
2. Viking hand axe, stained and leather grip. $20
3. Ritter Steel Celtic Norse Sword. Was totally covered in deep rust when I got it. It's largely cleaned off but there's a lot of pitting and some black scale. Wooden grip is still okay under the grip tape. No sheath. $40
4. Unique Brazilian machete w/ leather sheath. Staining & patination. $20
5. Tramontina latin 18" w/ clip point ground on. Nice leather sheath. Staining & discoloration. Good convex edge. $20
6. Tramontina latin 12" with slight tink-tink rattle when shook. Still functional. Cardboard and tape sheath added for safety. $3
7. Windlass hewing spear. Sharpened. Some scuffs, maybe discoloration. Hammer mark on tip where I flattened it back out. The shaft is just a cheap rake handle that isn't really worth shipping, so just the head unless you insist otherwise. $15
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Post by howler on Dec 1, 2016 1:01:23 GMT
CS Assegai, short and long. WICKED sharp, and you can find them for under $40. I also have a CS lance point spear that is interesting, and similar to what you may be after.
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Post by pgandy on Dec 1, 2016 1:27:33 GMT
I’ll have to agree with Howler on CS Assegai. It’s the best buy for the money out there. If the short version is too short for you get the long one and cut the haft if necessary.
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Post by howler on Dec 2, 2016 8:45:07 GMT
I’ll have to agree with Howler on CS Assegai. It’s the best buy for the money out there. If the short version is too short for you get the long one and cut the haft if necessary. Yeah, and the critique on these CS spears (including the larger Boar) is that they have a one sided shovel type socket. This only makes the things sharper, as the angles are more acute. I haven't seen any real durability issues in the decades they have been on the market, so it's a no brainer winning purchase.
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Post by pgandy on Dec 2, 2016 13:07:33 GMT
I’ll have to agree with Howler on CS Assegai. It’s the best buy for the money out there. If the short version is too short for you get the long one and cut the haft if necessary. Yeah, and the critique on these CS spears (including the larger Boar) is that they have a one sided shovel type socket. This only makes the things sharper, as the angles are more acute. I haven't seen any real durability issues in the decades they have been on the market, so it's a no brainer winning purchase. Yeah, and cosmetically I don’t like that but found a big improvement by spraying the backside where the wood shows through flat back, that includes the wood in that area. That goes a long ways in improving the appearance.
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Post by howler on Dec 2, 2016 20:36:27 GMT
Yeah, and the critique on these CS spears (including the larger Boar) is that they have a one sided shovel type socket. This only makes the things sharper, as the angles are more acute. I haven't seen any real durability issues in the decades they have been on the market, so it's a no brainer winning purchase. Yeah, and cosmetically I don’t like that but found a big improvement by spraying the backside where the wood shows through flat back, that includes the wood in that area. That goes a long ways in improving the appearance. And as everyone knows, you can still display them on the wall showing their "good" side.
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Post by pgandy on Dec 3, 2016 0:32:59 GMT
While not the prettiest of my spears it is the most rugged, most effective, and the least expensive. Here’s both sides of mine after painting, which is not a cure but in my opinion helps. I don’t know how old my spear is, I’ve had it for many years and but this will give a clue. The old style sheath.
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Post by howler on Dec 3, 2016 22:12:43 GMT
While not the prettiest of my spears it is the most rugged, most effective, and the least expensive. Here’s both sides of mine after painting, which is not a cure but in my opinion helps. I don’t know how old my spear is, I’ve had it for many years and but this will give a clue. The old style sheath. That black paint does look way better. The new Kydex sheaths that came with the spears I purchased (you must have had your item...A MIGHT SPELL ) were of extremely good quality, which is strange considering they usually offer sub par sheaths on much of there mid and lower priced items, if at all. After deals, the spears (long and short shaft) were in the low to mid $30 dollar range, pretty outstanding for what you get, and simply unbeatable (spear, shaft, sheath) in comparison to other offerings. These things are a FANTASTIC self defense option for people who do not use firearms, because they are effective (spear is king of weapons) and comparably easy (innate ability) to use for people who don't practice much. I feel like a CS salesman, but think every blade enthusiast should have a spear specimen in their collection (even if it is only to compare and contrast to their various swords, knives, axes, and such.
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Post by irondog on Dec 4, 2016 3:58:22 GMT
I am actually really looking at the lance point CS and a Celtic one by A&A, cutting it down to 6 feet, then butting a cap on the back end. I really appreciate all the info A LOT.. Thank You all very much.
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Post by howler on Dec 4, 2016 5:54:48 GMT
I am actually really looking at the lance point CS and a Celtic one by A&A, cutting it down to 6 feet, then butting a cap on the back end. I really appreciate all the info A LOT.. Thank You all very much. The lance point MAA by CS has a very nice, elegant shape (taken from British 19th century lance design). 1055 instead of SK5 steel, like the Assegai have, and the Assegai do come with that killer kydex sheath. Durable and imminently stabby (remember, no sharp edges). Really, with longer spears (not heavy polearms), your not really talking about effective chopping and slicing anyway (though you do have some push and pull cut ability). If you look around for deals, you might be able to score one for $40. You would be happy, with good pricing, to get both the Assegai and lance point spears.
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Post by stormmaster on Dec 7, 2016 0:01:53 GMT
also look into the Condor spears, I like the greek spear and the yari spear from them www.condortk.com/products-type.php?type=4they are not really that short tho, but you could just get a shorter shaft i suppose
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Post by howler on Dec 7, 2016 2:17:17 GMT
I have the CS assegai and bowie bushman. Remounted them several times on a variety of shafts of different length and thickness. I’ve had other spear heads bending quickly on heavier targets and overall not coming close to the performance of these wonderful items. Would love to try the lance point spear. I have the regular bushman (forgot about that) as well, but haven't put it on a shaft. I should say that I purchased my CS spears with no intention of ever throwing them, but I like the idea that they could handle it if I did. If I were a hog hunter, I would purchase all of them (primarily the Boar, as it offers more protection as well as the kill strike) and see which fit the bill best.
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Post by howler on Dec 7, 2016 2:18:32 GMT
also look into the Condor spears, I like the greek spear and the yari spear from them www.condortk.com/products-type.php?type=4they are not really that short tho, but you could just get a shorter shaft i suppose I've had my eye on the Yari.
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Post by Derzis on Dec 7, 2016 3:18:44 GMT
I liked the yari sold by hanwei. Fine killing tool there.
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Post by bluetrain on Dec 9, 2016 13:28:22 GMT
I've been considering acquiring a spear for months now, mainly because it fits my social status (spear carrier) more than most swords. But other things keep going to the top of my wish lists. Initially I looked at simple spear heads, that is, the head only, without a shaft already fitted. I also looked at bills and halberds, too. There is quite a choice out there of all of them.
More recently, however, I've been looking at Cold Steel's "Samburu spear," which they offer in three different weights. It's not a short spear, however, but they have the unique property of being able to be broken down into three sections. The description does say they can be disassembled but it doesn't say if the assembly is held firmly together once put together. In any case, they come with those neat sheaths and the fact that it can be taken apart for transport and storage is very handy, but I doubt they would be as sturdy as a simple hardwood shaft and spearhead. They have lots of those, too.
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Post by bluetrain on Dec 9, 2016 16:08:31 GMT
Cold Steel's website mentions the thing about the shafts being bent but it said they could be beaten or bent back into shape. But it also said in so many words that sooner or later the wooden part in the middle would break, too, which is not encouraging.
Chances are, their customers are throwing these and other spears into wooden targets or trees, not something spears were made for, but I'd probably do that if I had one, just the same.
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