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Post by bfoo2 on Oct 14, 2016 20:42:22 GMT
Well I just looked at them, and they're at level C which means they have some problems, to say the least... Yup, that makes me hesitate. The Smallsword should not have even been in the Seconds area...which is probably why it wasn't, hence the difficulty locating the deal. So basically you're saying it's too good to be true (but it is true so ha!) |
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Post by Aikidoka on Oct 14, 2016 20:47:53 GMT
Quick question to those who have this small sword: Has anyone tried to disassemble one yet? It has a pommel nut assembly, but as was mentioned in the review, epoxy could be seen near the guard. Just wondering if it comes apart easily and could possibly be a candidate for conversion to a fencing sword. From my experience, most repro swords (sabres, rapiers, smallswords, spadroons) have flattened (rectangular cross-section) tangs, whereas FIE fencing blades have square tangs. I can't speak for the CS smallsword in particular but I would not bank money on it working without some major re-working of the grip. Triplette/Zen Warrior makes extra wide epee blades with both square and wide tangs. So hopefully one could be made to fit without too much rework. www.zenwarriorarmory.com/catalog.php?item=257&catid=40&ret=catalog.php%3Fcategory%3D40 |
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Post by bfoo2 on Oct 14, 2016 20:57:09 GMT
Ah right, I forgot about Zen Armoury  Rockwell Classical Fencing makes some nice smallsword hilts (which I assume fit standard FIE blades). Another option to consider. Might be worth it since replacement FIE epee blades are easier to come by (and cheaper) than ZWA/Triplette blades. (Rockwell also does old-school Italian grips if one is interested. I got him to rivet on a 2-prong socket to one of his Italian foil grips and it's my main go-to for casual sparring now ) |
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Post by howler on Oct 15, 2016 2:13:44 GMT
Yup, that makes me hesitate. The Smallsword should not have even been in the Seconds area...which is probably why it wasn't, hence the difficulty locating the deal. So basically you're saying it's too good to be true (but it is true so ha!) It is true that I am saying that it is true to say that it is too go good to be true because the site (although true) was untrue...which is, of course, false, because the Smallsword was not on the site, and that's the truth. |
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Post by 28shadow on Oct 15, 2016 2:18:43 GMT
So basically you're saying it's too good to be true (but it is true so ha!) It is true that I am saying that it is true to say that it is too go good to be true because the site (although true) was untrue...which is, of course, false, because the Smallsword was not on the site, and that's the truth. I'll have what you're having. |
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Post by howler on Oct 15, 2016 2:49:42 GMT
It is true that I am saying that it is true to say that it is too go good to be true because the site (although true) was untrue...which is, of course, false, because the Smallsword was not on the site, and that's the truth. I'll have what you're having. True. |
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Post by Aikidoka on Oct 19, 2016 3:24:51 GMT
I received my CS Small Sword today and immediately took it apart   I heated the hilt for a while to soften the epoxy, but the fit of the ricasso/finger ring piece was so tight that it still took a lot of pounding to get it off.  As you can see above, the blade has a square tang, the same as the fencing epee blade below it. The upper portion of the tang on the epee blade is actually a little thicker than on on the CS blade. I had to file the opening in the hilt to get it to fit. And as can be seen here, the threads are welded onto the tang.  With the epee blade installed, the sword weighs just a hair over a pound and balances 1.25 inches in front of the shell guard.  |
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Post by bfoo2 on Oct 19, 2016 3:29:57 GMT
I received my CS Small Sword today and immediately took it apart I heated the hilt for a while to soften the epoxy, but the fit of the ricasso/finger ring piece was so tight that it still took a lot of pounding to get it off. As you can see above, the blade has a square tang, the same as the fencing epee blade below it. The tang on the epee blade is actually a little thicker than on on the CS blade. I had to file the opening in the hilt to get it to fit. And as can be seen here, the threads are welded onto the tang. With the epee blade installed, the sword weighs just a hair over a pound and balances 1.25 inches in front of the shell guard. OKAY I AM SOOO GETTING ONE OF THESE!!! My fencing students are going to be in for a suprise! |
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Post by Aikidoka on Oct 19, 2016 17:15:14 GMT
Cool! The only other issue that I came across is that the tang on the epee blade is about a quarter of an inch shorter than the CS blade tang ( the angle of the photo above makes them look the same, but the CS tang is longer) and the threads are a different size. So you'll need a new pommel nut. I found some 6mm x 20mm barrel nuts that should work perfectly. I ordered them from China, so I should have them in a couple of weeks.  |
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Post by LeMal on Oct 19, 2016 18:51:40 GMT
Very cool to see. Especially since in my case my interest is the reverse; I'm eventually going to want to keep the CS blade, but then for me it's the hilt parts that will be extra.
Hope if I get around to disassembling and putting those up for sale they'll interest someone who wants to "epee them." :)
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Post by bfoo2 on Oct 19, 2016 19:02:38 GMT
Very cool to see. Especially since in my case my interest is the reverse; I'm eventually going to want to keep the CS blade, but then for me it's the hilt parts that will be extra. Hope if I get around to disassembling and putting those up for sale they'll interest someone who wants to "epee them." Put me in line. I want the hilt; the blade is useless to me except as a novelty curtain-rod or or BBQ-skewer |
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Post by bfoo2 on Oct 21, 2016 5:45:22 GMT
Cool! The only other issue that I came across is that the tang on the epee blade is about a quarter of an inch shorter than the CS blade tang ( the angle of the photo above makes them look the same, but the CS tang is longer) and the threads are a different size. So you'll need a new pommel nut. I found some 6mm x 20mm barrel nuts that should work perfectly. I ordered them from China, so I should have them in a couple of weeks. Ohhh okay. Can you send me the link for these? Please let me know if these pommel nuts work. I'll be interested in duplicating your modification! |
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Post by Aikidoka on Oct 21, 2016 6:10:42 GMT
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Post by bluetrain on Oct 21, 2016 10:24:15 GMT
I buy screws like that at Lowes and used to get them at a local hardware store before they went out of business, only they don't have hex screwdriver fittings, just regular screwdriver.
I got one of the Cold Steel smallswords and couldn't be happier, which is not to say I'm content. But there are other modern production smallswords around, a few, anyway, and I wonder how the Cold Steel version compares with them.
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Post by bfoo2 on Nov 1, 2016 21:08:45 GMT
Hello Just out of curiosity, did it work? Any update on your smallsword-epee?  |
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Post by Aikidoka on Nov 1, 2016 21:25:38 GMT
I should receive the pommel nuts this week. I'll let you know how it works.
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Post by Aikidoka on Nov 18, 2016 5:26:42 GMT
I received the pommel nuts today and they fit perfectly! The nut just barely fits in the hole in the pommel. So everything in the hilt is very tightly fitted. And as I mentioned earlier, the weight and balance are excellent.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2021 19:58:48 GMT
Old thread.
I just bought one of these Cold Steel Small Swords (not having seen this thread). It hasn't arrived. But now, after reading this thread, I'm positively stoked. I had no idea how awesome this weapon is.
Kudo's to the people that contributed. Very informative.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2021 20:48:20 GMT
It is true that I am saying that it is true to say that it is too go good to be true because the site (although true) was untrue...which is, of course, false, because the Smallsword was not on the site, and that's the truth. And this post in particular one deserves an award. It's true. |
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Post by howler on Feb 7, 2021 22:08:13 GMT
It is true that I am saying that it is true to say that it is too go good to be true because the site (although true) was untrue...which is, of course, false, because the Smallsword was not on the site, and that's the truth. And this post in particular one deserves an award. It's true. I wish to thank the academy and would like to give a shout out to the following individuals for making it all possible...Ezra Brooks bourbon and Macallan scotch. |
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