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Post by 28shadow on Oct 13, 2016 20:19:04 GMT
I have one of these. Rather light in the hand when compared to other swords in general. I wouldn't want to fight with it, but it makes a great display piece.
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Post by howler on Oct 14, 2016 2:10:19 GMT
I have one of these. Rather light in the hand when compared to other swords in general. I wouldn't want to fight with it, but it makes a great display piece. Alone, it is better than a knife, but put a long blade in the off-hand and you become quite formidable. Its real value lies in the ability to carry (reason it was popular for personal defense), as REAL swords were roughly twice the size. But, yeah, you would have to be some kind of small sword master to justify going up against regular sized weapons. |
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Post by howler on Oct 14, 2016 2:14:50 GMT
It looks vicious with that needle-like point! They do not ship to Canada if the order is under $100, otherwise bfoo2 and I would have likely gotten one as well. I have an impression of it being similar to a spadroon or the 1840 NCO sword. Smallsword-esque, but a bit sturdier ad robust I think the thing is $100 (as of now), and you can always order a Kopis machete for under $10 (now I'm pimping the machete along with the smallsword) to go with the order ($110) total. |
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Post by bfoo2 on Oct 14, 2016 4:04:54 GMT
I have one of these. Rather light in the hand when compared to other swords in general. I wouldn't want to fight with it, but it makes a great display piece. Alone, it is better than a knife, but put a long blade in the off-hand and you become quite formidable. Its real value lies in the ability to carry (reason it was popular for personal defense), as REAL swords were roughly twice the size. But, yeah, you would have to be some kind of small sword master to justify going up against regular sized weapons. Actually of all the swords I own I'd most readily go to my smallswords for personal defence. I do a bit of sport fencing and I'd rather take my chances with a weapon system that I know well (however flawed it may be) vs one that I have no practical experience with. It's just a bit funny to think that of the two-dozen or so cavalry sabres and infantry swords I have I'd reach for the puniest first... For $100, I'm suprised that they still have some in stock. I'd expect these to fly off the shelves. Regardless of handling characteristics (and with smallswords this becomes quite personal- some love em and some hate em), they look to be beautifully put together and lovely display pieces. Just looks alone could probably justify 99 of the $100 asking price. Only problem for us Canadians is that once you toss on shipping and taxes and the crummy currency conversion (the highwayman of modern-day e-commerce), what started off as a $100 sword can easily double in price. |
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Post by Aikidoka on Oct 14, 2016 5:28:48 GMT
... by the way, it was difficult to discover the smallswords on sale and if it hadn't been for the link posted here, I probably would have never found it. Same here. Thanks for the link! Just placed an order for one  |
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Post by Afoo on Oct 14, 2016 5:39:45 GMT
It looks vicious with that needle-like point! They do not ship to Canada if the order is under $100, otherwise bfoo2 and I would have likely gotten one as well. I have an impression of it being similar to a spadroon or the 1840 NCO sword. Smallsword-esque, but a bit sturdier ad robust I think the thing is $100 (as of now), and you can always order a Kopis machete for under $10 (now I'm pimping the machete along with the smallsword) to go with the order ($110) total. My bad - I meant to say that they will not ship abroad if its under $ 150 before shipping - which is just too much to add extra. Conversion, shipping and tax would bring that to around $300 Cdn. The small sword looks nice, but I suspect it may look even better paired to a Universal Swords 1796 Inf Officer spadroon hilt. Could represent a non-regulation custom weapon for a discerning sword enthusiast  |
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Post by Jordan Williams on Oct 14, 2016 5:49:07 GMT
I think the thing is $100 (as of now), and you can always order a Kopis machete for under $10 (now I'm pimping the machete along with the smallsword) to go with the order ($110) total. My bad - I meant to say that they will not ship abroad if its under $ 150 before shipping - which is just too much to add extra. Conversion, shipping and tax would bring that to around $300 Cdn. The small sword looks nice, but I suspect it may look even better paired to a Universal Swords 1796 Inf Officer spadroon hilt. Could represent a non-regulation custom weapon for a discerning sword enthusiast It'd probably end up being a batter weapon as well, with the majority of the 1796 Infantry Spadroons being quite flimsy in the blade. (At least the example I handled, which I was told was bog standard was quite unweaponly) I imagine the end result would be something like a French 1882, but with a shorter lighter blade, and without the ability to deliver light cuts. In short I like that idea quite a bit  |
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Post by howler on Oct 14, 2016 5:59:11 GMT
Alone, it is better than a knife, but put a long blade in the off-hand and you become quite formidable. Its real value lies in the ability to carry (reason it was popular for personal defense), as REAL swords were roughly twice the size. But, yeah, you would have to be some kind of small sword master to justify going up against regular sized weapons. Actually of all the swords I own I'd most readily go to my smallswords for personal defence. I do a bit of sport fencing and I'd rather take my chances with a weapon system that I know well (however flawed it may be) vs one that I have no practical experience with. It's just a bit funny to think that of the two-dozen or so cavalry sabres and infantry swords I have I'd reach for the puniest first... For $100, I'm suprised that they still have some in stock. I'd expect these to fly off the shelves. Regardless of handling characteristics (and with smallswords this becomes quite personal- some love em and some hate em), they look to be beautifully put together and lovely display pieces. Just looks alone could probably justify 99 of the $100 asking price. Only problem for us Canadians is that once you toss on shipping and taxes and the crummy currency conversion (the highwayman of modern-day e-commerce), what started off as a $100 sword can easily double in price. I hear ya regarding the stupid things that double your price, but I actually paid like $190 or something on my first one, before I found that oasis quirk on the CS Special Projects site, which made me promptly buy two more, so its still a good deal. The better a true small swordsman you are, the more you would want, say, an 18oz. or so example. But, if your just a novice, the larger (but still within the 1 1/2lb historical envelope) 22oz Small sword does have advantages (due to robustness). Paired with an off-hand, you can go against damn near anything. |
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Post by howler on Oct 14, 2016 6:07:33 GMT
I think the thing is $100 (as of now), and you can always order a Kopis machete for under $10 (now I'm pimping the machete along with the smallsword) to go with the order ($110) total. My bad - I meant to say that they will not ship abroad if its under $ 150 before shipping - which is just too much to add extra. Conversion, shipping and tax would bring that to around $300 Cdn. The small sword looks nice, but I suspect it may look even better paired to a Universal Swords 1796 Inf Officer spadroon hilt. Could represent a non-regulation custom weapon for a discerning sword enthusiast The extra $150 wouldn't have been the deal breaker (can always buy a few machete...I ordered NINE the other day from ARANYIK...and whatnot to get to that total), but the DOUBLING due to the draconian Conversion, shipping, tax was a killer. How much would that hilt cost, as I could easily justify modifying one of my spares. |
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Post by howler on Oct 14, 2016 6:14:38 GMT
... by the way, it was difficult to discover the smallswords on sale and if it hadn't been for the link posted here, I probably would have never found it. Same here. Thanks for the link! Just placed an order for one I found the strange area on their site several months ago and promptly spread the word. It is like a weird rift in the space time continuum, spitting out smallswords. After my discovery, only the people on this forum are privy to this information...the only explanation for why these things are still available. Shhhh...nobody sneeze...the crack in the fabric of the universe will close. |
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Post by bluetrain on Oct 14, 2016 12:20:54 GMT
They now have their Marine Corps officer's saber on sale for less than $100, sword seconds.
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Post by 28shadow on Oct 14, 2016 12:47:10 GMT
They now have their Marine Corps officer's saber on sale for less than $100, sword seconds. What is this, christmas!? |
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Post by 28shadow on Oct 14, 2016 12:50:07 GMT
They now have their Marine Corps officer's saber on sale for less than $100, sword seconds. What is this, christmas!? Well I just looked at them, and they're at level C which means they have some problems, to say the least... |
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Post by Jordan Williams on Oct 14, 2016 15:02:28 GMT
What is this, christmas!? Well I just looked at them, and they're at level C which means they have some problems, to say the least... Reviews of the Sabre (I think on knifecenter? I don't remember) also said they have incredibly uncomfortable grips to the apparently unshaped handle scales. |
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Post by 28shadow on Oct 14, 2016 15:10:28 GMT
Well I just looked at them, and they're at level C which means they have some problems, to say the least... Reviews of the Sabre (I think on knifecenter? I don't remember) also said they have incredibly uncomfortable grips to the apparently unshaped handle scales. Shame. Looks like we won't be getting another amazing deal like the small sword. |
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Post by harrybeck on Oct 14, 2016 15:59:42 GMT
maybe we'll get lucky again?
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Post by howler on Oct 14, 2016 19:58:30 GMT
They now have their Marine Corps officer's saber on sale for less than $100, sword seconds. Your right, Blue, that thing has been there for months (and I have been seriously considering), but you should know that it is a class C second (look at the definitions they have on the site about quality erosion per class). The Smallsword (seemingly) shouldn't even be classified as such...which is probably why they didn't even put it in the Seconds area (hence the difficulty finding it). I have a CS Marine NCO saber that is only different in the guard/handle, so that also makes me hesitant. |
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Post by howler on Oct 14, 2016 20:05:00 GMT
What is this, christmas!? Well I just looked at them, and they're at level C which means they have some problems, to say the least... Yup, that makes me hesitate. The Smallsword should not have even been in the Seconds area...which is probably why it wasn't, hence the difficulty locating the deal. |
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Post by Aikidoka on Oct 14, 2016 20:38:51 GMT
Quick question to those who have this small sword:
Has anyone tried to disassemble one yet? It has a pommel nut assembly, but as was mentioned in the review, epoxy could be seen near the guard. Just wondering if it comes apart easily and could possibly be a candidate for conversion to a fencing sword.
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Post by bfoo2 on Oct 14, 2016 20:42:01 GMT
Quick question to those who have this small sword: Has anyone tried to disassemble one yet? It has a pommel nut assembly, but as was mentioned in the review, epoxy could be seen near the guard. Just wondering if it comes apart easily and could possibly be a candidate for conversion to a fencing sword. From my experience, most repro swords (sabres, rapiers, smallswords, spadroons) have flattened (rectangular cross-section) tangs, whereas FIE fencing blades have square tangs. I can't speak for the CS smallsword in particular but I would not bank money on it working without some major re-working of the grip. |
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