Zen_Hydra
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Post by Zen_Hydra on Oct 4, 2016 20:57:56 GMT
I recently noticed that Ronin Katana is offering a kriegsmesser. I was wondering if anyone has any experience with, or opinions on, it. |
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Post by zabazagobo on Oct 4, 2016 21:12:10 GMT
Wow, looks nice it doesn't weight 4.5 pounds like the Cold Steel messer. And I thought I was upset my sword funds were dry already.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2016 21:39:16 GMT
I like the look of the blade and fittings, although I'm not happy with the location of the seam. The "scabbard/sheath" is rather lacking and looks tacky imo. I really wish they did introductory prices as with the other euros
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Post by zabazagobo on Oct 4, 2016 22:09:10 GMT
It does look tacky and also a little deceptive. The first pic I saw was of the scabbard and I thought "HOLY *&$# that's a massive blade", when I saw the actual blade I was a little disappointed. I was kind of hoping for a "Krieg-scimitar", but just ended up seeing a very nice looking, normal width blade.
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Post by thedirewolf93 on Oct 5, 2016 0:15:13 GMT
Looks interesting can't wait to see more about it. About time we get more messer love from production companies at an entry level price is always nice to see.
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Post by Zen_Hydra on Oct 5, 2016 11:50:12 GMT
It definitely looks more appealing than Cold Steel's offerings. However, it doesn't appear to have a nagel (which I thought was a defining characteristic).
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Oct 5, 2016 13:26:39 GMT
Wonder how I missed this. Good looking sword and definitely better looking than Cold Steel's, but that sheath is pretty atrocious for the price; looks like something you'd get on a Pakistani flea market sword. Also kinda wish they'd just call it a two-handed saber instead of a kriegsmesser since, as Zenhydra pointed out, it lacks a nagel and that's kinda the defining feature of any messer.
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Post by thedirewolf93 on Oct 5, 2016 13:33:39 GMT
Still looks good but it is also missing the handle slabs which is also common in leaders. I feel with all this it would better be called a two handed falchion or sabre.
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Post by Jussi Ekholm on Oct 5, 2016 15:07:04 GMT
I agree with Direwolf. I'd say it's a falchion and not a messer.
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Post by Croccifixio on Oct 6, 2016 5:59:50 GMT
It's more a two handed hungarian sabre than anything else. I don't know the stats yet but the width seems awfully small for a falchion.
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Post by thedirewolf93 on Oct 6, 2016 23:44:16 GMT
Well what ever it is I just want more info and to see it in action. If it's anything like any of the other Ronin European swords it should be an alright little single edged two handed curved sword.
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Post by Gregory P. on Oct 8, 2016 5:13:08 GMT
Thanks for posting on this. I'm definitely interested. I've been on the hunt for a two-handed, single edged sword. Albion's The Knecht is the shiz... but so expensive. Cold Steel's MAA Gross Messer has been on my list - but honestly, i'm not crazy about that guard. It's good to have another option.
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Post by LeMal on Oct 8, 2016 19:28:19 GMT
This one seems a little katana-ish from the pics, but I'm hopeful it's more distinct, and that someone picks one up to review. (BTW Gregory, you might think about the MAA Grossy with a little lightening by lopping off the unsharpened "yelman" part. Won't give it extra distal taper, but it apparently already has a fair amount. A much less time-consuming adaptation with just a Dremel, a cut-off tool, and a little smoothing of the cut section with sandpaper afterward, maybe a little reblueing--or back-edge sharpening. Something like this.)  (Yup, as I pare back my overloaded project list, I'm trying to off-load ideas. ;) ) |
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Post by Gregory P. on Oct 9, 2016 0:46:15 GMT
LeMal - that's some nice Photoshop blacksmithery. Now if you can just do something with that guard, i'll be ready to place my order :-)
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Post by LeMal on Oct 9, 2016 4:46:28 GMT
What exactly don't you like about the guard? Anything a Dremel could also easily fix?
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Post by blackchapel on Oct 10, 2016 5:37:14 GMT
Are the ronin euros considered pretty decent? I've been looking to purchase my first euro and was considering one of these, but wasn't sure what the general consensus was. The sheath looks pretty gaudy, but the sword itself seems nice.
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Post by Ifrit on Oct 10, 2016 5:55:25 GMT
I'm in love with it. Really wish it had the Negal on the guard though. But it's still beautiful
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Post by Adrian Jordan on Oct 10, 2016 6:05:06 GMT
Well, the current peened versions are fairly well thought of. The former ones with the screwed on pommels seemed to have bad welds with the threads on some. The new ones aren't considered historically accurate, more 'inspired' by a certain type, so if that bugs you then it could be a minus. They get more good reviews than bad, but there aren't a lot of reviews on them out there. They run about the same price as the Hanwei/Tinker lines, and the H/T's get a little more love from those that have owned both. I think both are good, viable options as entry-level Euro styled swords.
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Post by Zen_Hydra on Oct 10, 2016 18:04:27 GMT
It looks like Ronin Katana edited the swords description, and removed the kriegsmesser reference.
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Post by ChrisA on Oct 10, 2016 18:26:17 GMT
It looks like Ronin Katana edited the swords description, and removed the kriegsmesser reference. Not if you click on the pictures. It still says kriegsmesser there. |
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