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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Oct 11, 2016 16:22:49 GMT
I would love to see a Mainz blade with something like a Prussian P-guard sabre hilt. A short, wide blade with decent knuckle protection and an fumble-free grip. The scabbard could be a carbon fiber reinforced plastic, because...reasons. ... with spikes on the knuckleguard. The Gen2 Maintz is more a fulham/mainz, a good cutter for a "short"sword and has a murderous tip. It's a bit unhistorical, so I've thought about a handguard already.
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Post by Zen_Hydra on Oct 11, 2016 17:31:29 GMT
I would love to see a Mainz blade with something like a Prussian P-guard sabre hilt. A short, wide blade with decent knuckle protection and an fumble-free grip. The scabbard could be a carbon fiber reinforced plastic, because...reasons. ... with spikes on the knuckleguard. The Gen2 Maintz is more a fulham/mainz, a good cutter for a "short"sword and has a murderous tip. It's a bit unhistorical, so I've thought about a handguard already. I'm not a fan of superfluous spikey bits. I don't think they add much utility, and they have a tendency to snag on random things and/or poke their owner's moist bread-like flesh while being worn.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Oct 11, 2016 17:53:08 GMT
Ok, very decent spikes, just a grooved knuckleguard!
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Post by bluetrain on Oct 21, 2016 15:49:50 GMT
There was a Japanese warrant officer's sword for sale on eBay recently that was a little exceptional in that it still had with it a removable leather cover for the scabbard. I do not know if those leather covers were the general rule for field use or not but that particular sword meets my idea of a tactical sword. I believe the metal scabbard itself was already painted olive green, so the leather cover was sort of redundant. It would have helped to make the outfit less noisy, though.
Officer's swords were generally more elaborate but the warrant officer or NCO version had a real fake grip made of aluminum, I think, to simulate the usual cord wrapping of a Japanese sword grip. Really a lot more practical but I can't speak to how different that made the grip as far as holding it goes. I actually owned one about 40 years ago but it had no leather cover. All of these swords seemed to have had bright blades, which really isn't tactical. They are also all about as long as you'd want a sword to be but they have two-handed grips and the blade is proportionately shorter. The next shorter size of Japanese sword might be a little handier and such a sword I think was actually carried by Japanese pilots, mostly for symbolic reason, I assume.
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Post by darth on Oct 21, 2016 17:32:37 GMT
Tactile is marketing speak at this point.
A gladius with a knuckle guard, a falcion or a cutlass would all be great choices for a blade bigger than a knife for hand to hand combat but not so long as to be a hassel IMO.
I live in an open carry state. I take walks with my infantry sword on my side ( and a 1911A1 or Glock 19) and it 's pretty comfortable, I use a baldric made from an old luggage strap, not a pain in the ass, and I've gotten good at not hitting things with the drag in the house, but it's still a tad long. I want a good Cutlass/Hanger or a Falcion/Messer with a guard on it as that would be easier in my current "garrison" carry and it would fit for my "World's Gone Dark" sword as the Saber could get in the way and snagged on things if I was in modern fighting kit. Until then I have Kukri that goes on my pistol belt and a Kershaw 18 that's connected to my ruck and can switch quick to my LBE harness.
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Post by darth on Oct 21, 2016 17:35:31 GMT
There was a Japanese warrant officer's sword for sale on eBay recently that was a little exceptional in that it still had with it a removable leather cover for the scabbard. I do not know if those leather covers were the general rule for field use or not but that particular sword meets my idea of a tactical sword. I believe the metal scabbard itself was already painted olive green, so the leather cover was sort of redundant. It would have helped to make the outfit less noisy, though. Officer's swords were generally more elaborate but the warrant officer or NCO version had a real fake grip made of aluminum, I think, to simulate the usual cord wrapping of a Japanese sword grip. Really a lot more practical but I can't speak to how different that made the grip as far as holding it goes. I actually owned one about 40 years ago but it had no leather cover. All of these swords seemed to have had bright blades, which really isn't tactical. They are also all about as long as you'd want a sword to be but they have two-handed grips and the blade is proportionately shorter. The next shorter size of Japanese sword might be a little handier and such a sword I think was actually carried by Japanese pilots, mostly for symbolic reason, I assume. A Wakazashi would not be a bad choice today. As for blade shine, well, you're not whipping it out until you have to use it or you are at a point where concealment is not a concern and at times when you might want to use a sword in modern war, well, you want that glint, shine and all the " Holy #$$ It's a sword he's got!" or you are using it to spur your men on.
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Post by Ifrit on Oct 21, 2016 19:52:31 GMT
Tactile is marketing speak at this point. A gladius with a knuckle guard, a falcion or a cutlass would all be great choices for a blade bigger than a knife for hand to hand combat but not so long as to be a hassel IMO. I live in an open carry state. I take walks with my infantry sword on my side ( and a 1911A1 or Glock 19) and it 's pretty comfortable, I use a baldric made from an old luggage strap, not a pain in the ass, and I've gotten good at not hitting things with the drag in the house, but it's still a tad long. I want a good Cutlass/Hanger or a Falcion/Messer with a guard on it as that would be easier in my current "garrison" carry and it would fit for my "World's Gone Dark" sword as the Saber could get in the way and snagged on things if I was in modern fighting kit. Until then I have Kukri that goes on my pistol belt and a Kershaw 18 that's connected to my ruck and can switch quick to my LBE harness. Wait... You can walk around with a sword where you live? Can I move with you? I can't even carry a folding pocket knife anywhere on my person up here in Canada
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Post by scottw on Oct 22, 2016 3:58:24 GMT
Thats a sad state of affairs..when laws restrict your right to defend yourself they are not just. You have my sympathy. In truth I let my carry license expire years ago. It means nothing to me.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Oct 22, 2016 7:58:21 GMT
Cool, we germans don't have the hardest anti-weapon law, didn't know that. In general we are allowed to carry folders, if not single hand opening, or ca. 5" blade knives in public, with certain exceptions. Even swords are allowed, if you have a "respectable" reason (old costume customs), but not self defense.
To be fair those laws don't restrict your right to defense, but the means to carry with you for this reason. I think there is some line everywhere, RPG, Gatlings, nuke???
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Post by bluetrain on Oct 22, 2016 11:41:21 GMT
In my 70 years (which included two years in Germany), I've never been in a self-defense situation. I don't feel the need to carry a weapon. Naturally, your experiences and opinions may differ. But I think that open carry is tactically a bad idea. In some ways it makes you a target. In other ways, it may be seen as threatening, although that may be the idea in some cases. Here I'm speaking of in town and on the street where, in theory, there is more danger.
Along the same lines, on outdoor, hiking and camping forums, there are usually threads about first-aid kits and in fact, I do carry a first-aid kit (my lunch box has three knives, too, although I only use the fork) both in the woods and when traveling. And in truth, I have been accidentally injured badly enough to require a trip to the emergency room but only from injuries at home. I have therefore concluded that the most dangerous place I might find myself is in my own home.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2016 11:43:36 GMT
Thats a sad state of affairs..when laws restrict your right to defend yourself they are not just. You have my sympathy. In truth I let my carry license expire years ago. It means nothing to me. heh...here in Germany youre allowed to carry a 12cm fixed knife (single edge, otherwise a forbidden, lethal weapon!) or a 9cm folder (but only if the folder has no opening aid; otherwise its forbidden, lethal weapon!); but man: if you ever DARE to defend yourself with a knife here, ESPECIALLY against un- or blunt-armed attackers (doesnt matter how many, doesnt matter if they had chains or sticks or whatever)...man you gonna go to jail FAR longer than any nazi war criminal...
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Post by Croccifixio on Oct 22, 2016 12:34:55 GMT
Thats a sad state of affairs..when laws restrict your right to defend yourself they are not just. You have my sympathy. In truth I let my carry license expire years ago. It means nothing to me. heh...here in Germany youre allowed to carry a 12cm fixed knife (single edge, otherwise a forbidden, lethal weapon!) or a 9cm folder (but only if the folder has no opening aid; otherwise its forbidden, lethal weapon!); but man: if you ever DARE to defend yourself with a knife here, ESPECIALLY against un- or blunt-armed attackers (doesnt matter how many, doesnt matter if they had chains or sticks or whatever)...man you gonna go to jail FAR longer than any nazi war criminal... How about a collapsible baton? That IMO should be the number 1 EDC for those living in countries with strict weapon laws.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Oct 22, 2016 13:25:23 GMT
Forbidden, too. It's generally not allowed to carry a "weapon", but shorter knives and folders are considered as tools, if it's not something like a dagger, fighting knive. But especially all hidden weapons like cane-swords or collapsible batons are strictly banned.
To be honest, in Germany usually you don't need a weapon too. Even our prison warders don't have guns usually. They say if they can't manage a prisoner without gun, a gun would be a greater danger for themselfes. It works here.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2016 14:31:15 GMT
yep...Andi's right! No tele-batons, no tonfa, no taser, no nunchuck, no pepper-spray (its only allowed against animals - if used against humans: see knife defense...)! And unarmed combat...ha! A friend of mine used his Muay Thai skills some 10-12 years ago to beat and kick the crap out of two jerks attacking him...well i dont remember the exact sum but he was confined to a quite hight "money punishment" and later the two guys' lawyers chased him to pay them attackers...thats Germany, ffolkes...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2016 14:48:07 GMT
In my 70 years (which included two years in Germany), I've never been in a self-defense situation. WOW! You are really lucky man..... yep...Andi's right! No tele-batons, no tonfa, no taser, no nunchuck, no pepper-spray (its only allowed against animals - if used against humans: see knife defense...)! And unarmed combat...ha! A friend of mine used his Muay Thai skills some 10-12 years ago to beat and kick the crap out of two jerks attacking him...well i dont remember the exact sum but he was confined to a quite hight "money punishment" and later the two guys' lawyers chased him to pay them attackers...thats Germany, ffolkes... I would probably be at prison right now and die there in that case if I was in Germany. Thailand and Pakistan are way too lenient in that way, you just need to know which 'buttons to press' and which 'strings to pull'.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2016 14:50:40 GMT
I have had to defend myself about 5-6 times in my life, not counting my more 'professional' work. 2 times when I was 14, once when I was 16 and in Thailand, and two more times in Pakistan at 17 and 19( this year ). Have had my share of improvised weapons, knives, batons and even a gun once...
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Oct 22, 2016 15:08:44 GMT
We have very good tactical umbrellas here! (no spike, hidden blade etc., only durable)
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Post by Croccifixio on Oct 22, 2016 15:37:22 GMT
For one of the greatest historical warrior factories throughout different forms of existence, the land we now know as Germany sure has toned down.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Oct 22, 2016 15:55:29 GMT
There were some issues in our history, which made some changes advisable.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2016 16:30:39 GMT
Don't tell me that you are talking about THE indestructible umbrella?
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