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Post by Svadilfari on Jul 4, 2016 7:33:53 GMT
I noticed that KOA is showing a Cold Steel Italian Cinquedea in their new items page. It doesn't look too bad to my untrained eye. Has anyone gotten one yet or do you know of any reviews on said item ? It looks like something different to Cold Steels usual offerings.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2016 8:11:50 GMT
like it a lot and gonna order one...
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Post by chrisoro on Aug 10, 2016 23:48:02 GMT
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Post by legacyofthesword on Aug 12, 2016 3:05:35 GMT
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Post by bluetrain on Aug 12, 2016 11:06:10 GMT
I think someone else makes one that is a little more historically accurate as far as the grip goes but it may not be generally available.
Notice how narrow the tang is on one of those behind the glass (the right-hand photo).
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Post by legacyofthesword on Aug 13, 2016 1:28:33 GMT
That is pretty thin - I wasn't really thinking about that. I wonder how robust the design was, what with that big blade?
Sent a message to Cold Steel. We'll see how fast they get back with me.
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Post by Zen_Hydra on Aug 13, 2016 1:59:24 GMT
All those fullers aren't just for show. Despite their appearance, the cinquedea are supposed to be light and nimble weapons.
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Post by bluetrain on Aug 13, 2016 12:14:53 GMT
Although it is a narrow tang in the photo, it's probably strong enough. Drive a spike of about the same size into a chunk of 4x4 about two feet long, leaving about five inches sticking out. Then see how difficult it is to break or bend the spike with your hands, even wrapping the exposed part of the spike to make a good handle.
Notice also that they differ in length and all look longer than the CS version, although they may not be. But none of the grips really look that great to me.
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Post by Zen_Hydra on Aug 15, 2016 16:49:01 GMT
The cinquedea blade design is one of my very favorites. I would lose my mind if Albion ever decided to make one.
In my fantasy armory I would have three cinquedea-style swords - a short one with a 20in/51cm blade, a medium sized one-hander with a 30in/76cm blade, and a greatsword with a 40in/102cm.
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Post by legacyofthesword on Aug 16, 2016 1:24:42 GMT
Although it is a narrow tang in the photo, it's probably strong enough. Drive a spike of about the same size into a chunk of 4x4 about two feet long, leaving about five inches sticking out. Then see how difficult it is to break or bend the spike with your hands, even wrapping the exposed part of the spike to make a good handle. Notice also that they differ in length and all look longer than the CS version, although they may not be. But none of the grips really look that great to me. The grips are actually the thing that worries me the most. They look kind of uncomfortable - but people in the old days weren't idiots, so they probably feel fine in real life. But yeah, I'd love to get my hands on one. That blade is just pure awesome. |
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Post by bluetrain on Aug 20, 2016 12:11:11 GMT
Well, maybe someone will make some aftermarket rubber grips for it.
Reading over the specifications again, I realized that it really doesn't have a very long blade. Long enough, perhaps, but I'd rather have one a few inches longer, if I had my druthers.
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Post by Aikidoka on Sept 12, 2016 1:37:47 GMT
A friend of mine brought his CS cinquedea to our cutting practice. I spent a while sharpening it and then cut a full tatami mat with it. Easily.
He recorded the cuts and said he would post the video to YouTube. I'll post a link when he does.
The grip is comfortable and the blade feels very good in the hand. Light, but with enough blade presence to cut well. Once the fat secondary bevel is removed, that is.
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Post by Aikidoka on Sept 12, 2016 3:29:16 GMT
Here's the video:
The first target is a half mat and the second is full tatami mat.
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Post by pgandy on Sept 12, 2016 12:56:28 GMT
Thanks for the comments and posting.
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Post by darth on Sept 22, 2016 20:51:17 GMT
That, a Scottish Dirk, a German Hunting Dager and Windlasses 17+" bladed D-Guard Bowie are the 4 prime canidates for some offhand steel buddies for swords and stand alone companions when out and about. ( Knife friendly state, for the most part).
That vid helped the Cinqueda go up in stock. Even though it's not of the period of much of what i train, I have read that they were making these in Italy in the 1840s and allthough a lot of it what to con Brits and others into thinking they were buying a period weapon, I could see some people back then taking those reporduction Cinqs and using them for defense or for an offhand weapon with their sword in combat. I have no evedence of anyone using one like this but it's very possable. In time when sword combat was still a possibility, one could see how someone then would use that weapon like others used navel dirks, Bowies, Bayonets and German hunting daggers.
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