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Post by feral on Jun 14, 2016 10:08:57 GMT
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Post by feral on Jun 14, 2016 10:12:17 GMT
It's 80crv2 being made mostly via stock removal so materials and methods are already modern. I've got it in my head that a ricasso is a little safer than the edge running all the way to the hilt, but really at this point it's probably just a question of aesthetics. Any opinions?
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Post by L Driggers (fallen) on Jun 14, 2016 10:39:43 GMT
If you blend it in well it will be fine. Hardy ever do I go all the way to the handle with the edge, just use a full falt grind and blend it in.
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Post by demonskull on Jun 14, 2016 11:25:14 GMT
Nice lines. Brass or steel furniture and what type of wood for the grips ? I like the idea of the ricasso as long as it has defined grind lines.
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Post by MOK on Jun 14, 2016 15:29:08 GMT
Very nice! Looks a lot like some of the elven knives in the LotR films.  I take it historical accuracy isn't much of a thing, here, so I think having a ricasso would be perfectly alright as long as the lines are kept crisp and flow with the rest of the knife - something like what Jody Samson always did should look good:  |
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Post by Lukas MG (chenessfan) on Jun 14, 2016 20:05:00 GMT
I don't see a ricasso in that pic so maybe I'm missing something?
Either way: I would recommend NOT going with a ricasso. Seax with ricasso is a faux-pas in my opinion. As is a V-grind/Scandi-grind btw as pictured. Full flat or convex grind is the only appropriate blade geometry for a seax.
If you want do give the blade a ricasso, scandi grind etc, that's all cool. I can image it looking great. But don't call it a seax then. The blade shape and geometry is the fundamental characteristic of the seax, as is the handle. If you deviate from those points, the piece stops being a seax. There is more than enough leeway for interpretation to make it "your style" and still have it be a perfectly fine seax. But adding a guard, ricasso or scandi grind in my opinion is not compatible with the term seax.
Your mileage may vary.
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Post by Voltan on Jun 15, 2016 2:02:04 GMT
Good to see you back around. I feel there's nothing wrong with it. The best part about making your own blades is the fact that you can do it however you want. You're subject to no one's rules but your own. |
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Post by Adrian Jordan on Jun 15, 2016 5:13:54 GMT
I don't know enough about seax to comment on that angle, but what you've got going on there looks killer so far.
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Post by bigpete on Jun 15, 2016 7:46:37 GMT
Original design looks good,I think it would look fine with a ricasso but honestly I don't think it will be any safer really to be honest
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Post by MOK on Jun 15, 2016 8:15:56 GMT
I don't see a ricasso in that pic so maybe I'm missing something? Might be a difference in terminology? To me, a ricasso is any sort of blunt section at the base of the blade. |
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Post by Luka on Jun 15, 2016 10:39:48 GMT
You add a riccasso on a seax and you basically get a bowie knife. :D
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Post by Lukas MG (chenessfan) on Jun 15, 2016 11:30:10 GMT
I don't see a ricasso in that pic so maybe I'm missing something? Might be a difference in terminology? To me, a ricasso is any sort of blunt section at the base of the blade. To me, a ricasso is an un-edged part. Not just blunt but actually without bevels.  I don't see anything of the sort (plunge cut, etc) in the original drawing. If you just leave the first few mm or cm un-sharpened (1mm edge or such) but with the bevel in place, I don't call that a ricasso and I'm honestly not sure who does. |
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Post by MOK on Jun 15, 2016 16:57:19 GMT
Might be a difference in terminology? To me, a ricasso is any sort of blunt section at the base of the blade. To me, a ricasso is an un-edged part. Not just blunt but actually without bevels. I don't see anything of the sort (plunge cut, etc) in the original drawing. If you just leave the first few mm or cm un-sharpened (1mm edge or such) but with the bevel in place, I don't call that a ricasso and I'm honestly not sure who does. Oh! Yes, of course. The original drawing does not, indeed, feature a ricasso; I took it she's having second thoughts about whether to include one. |
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Post by Lukas MG (chenessfan) on Jun 15, 2016 17:28:41 GMT
Well, that's explains that :)
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Post by feral on Jun 19, 2016 2:05:07 GMT
To me, a ricasso is an un-edged part. Not just blunt but actually without bevels. I don't see anything of the sort (plunge cut, etc) in the original drawing. If you just leave the first few mm or cm un-sharpened (1mm edge or such) but with the bevel in place, I don't call that a ricasso and I'm honestly not sure who does. Oh! Yes, of course. The original drawing does not, indeed, feature a ricasso; I took it she's having second thoughts about whether to include one. I might just have to hire you as my translator. I thought this was pretty damned obvious, but maybe I give people too much credit. |
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Post by MOK on Jun 19, 2016 5:34:21 GMT
People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it!  |
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Post by Lukas MG (chenessfan) on Jun 19, 2016 7:38:41 GMT
Well, it's not the people who are at fault here... if you ask "how do we feel about a seax with ricasso" and then remove the pic of the seax with ricasso and only leave a pic without ricasso but instead an equally ill-fitting scandi-grind, what do you think happens?
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Post by brotherbanzai on Jun 19, 2016 17:35:24 GMT
I would suggest doing it without the ricasso (or plunge cut) and just leaving the first inch or so unsharpened. That would give you the same approximate safety as a ricasso but have the better (in my opinion) aesthetics of a more seax-like grind. As others have mentioned, a plunge cut is going to make it look more like a bowie.
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Post by chrisperoni on Jun 19, 2016 18:39:03 GMT
Are seax supposed to be zero ground? Honestly asking |
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Post by MOK on Jun 19, 2016 21:58:03 GMT
Are seax supposed to be zero ground? Honestly asking They almost invariably feature a triangular cross-section (with more or less convex flats) throughout the length of the blade. |
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