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Post by 8GatesTaiji on Mar 29, 2016 22:18:54 GMT
Has anybody here purchased or know anything about TFW's (Traditional Filipino Weapon) Chinese Jian? I'm trying to figure out how much it weighs. When I look at Kult of Athena they have it down as 1 lb 14.5 oz, but on the TFW website have the weight down as 2.7 lbs. Now that quite a big difference. If the Jian is 1 lb 14.5 oz I think I want it, if it's 2.7 lbs I don't. Does anybody know for sure?
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Post by Croccifixio on Mar 30, 2016 4:01:55 GMT
KoA is likely more accurate on stats.
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Post by 8GatesTaiji on Mar 30, 2016 5:00:10 GMT
I hope so. I did send an email to them, asking them. In fact both KOA and TFW.
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Mar 30, 2016 8:07:52 GMT
They could both be correct; TFW may list the weight with the scabbard while KOA may list the weight of just the sword itself. A little over half a pound sounds about right for a scabbard (though I've never actually weighed any of mine, so don't quote me on that) and would account for the discrepancy.
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Post by 8GatesTaiji on Mar 30, 2016 21:37:28 GMT
TFW got back to me today. They said that their Jian is between 1.5 and 1.7 lbs. They didn't know why it said 2.7 lbs on the their website, but have now corrected to read 1.7 lbs. So I went ahead and bought it. I'm still not sure exactly what they mean by a "5160/D2 steel blend", but that is weight range I was looking for in sharp, balance jian.
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Post by 8GatesTaiji on Mar 30, 2016 23:47:24 GMT
Hey Vincent, how is the tang of your TFW swords secured to the handle? Is there a pommel nut, or are they peened?
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Post by foxmartialarts on Mar 31, 2016 0:58:15 GMT
Hey Vincent, how is the tang of your TFW swords secured to the handle? Is there a pommel nut, or are they peened? TFW uses a pommel nut, as far as I remember. I chatted with Ron at TFW, and he said the blade has a hollow grind, nearing an asymmetrical grind, and they cut very well. I contacted Ryan at KoA in the past, and he weighed one of them for me with a result of alb 14.5 oz. Its an awesome jian, if not perfectly historically accurate with the fuller. |
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Post by 8GatesTaiji on Mar 31, 2016 3:04:15 GMT
Actually, in the late Qing dynasty there were jians with fullers and ricassos. There was a great deal European influence. The jian's fuller is probably the main reason for the relatively lower weight.
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Mar 31, 2016 4:28:06 GMT
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Mar 31, 2016 4:58:09 GMT
Hey Vincent, how is the tang of your TFW swords secured to the handle? Is there a pommel nut, or are they peened? I don't actually have any of TFW's products yet; sorry if my post wasn't clear, I was referring to wood scabbards in general. I've got a Hanwei Practical Broadsword, which is about a pound and a half and the scabbard feels quite a bit lighter, so if it turned out to be about a half pound or so, it wouldn't surprise me. |
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Post by 8GatesTaiji on Apr 5, 2016 0:45:26 GMT
Well, I got the sword, and it is and it really is about 1.5 to 1.7 lbs. still trying to figure out how much I like it. More flexible than I figured it would be. Not Wu Shu blade flexible or anything like that. Balance isn't bad. The furniture is really light, not sure what it's made out of. I'm not if feels light or cheap. I have to give it a little time. Just not what I'm used to.
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