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Post by buliwyf on Feb 11, 2016 20:15:46 GMT
This has to be a strange derringer flintlock.the barrel unscrews to load it.you put the powder in a little cup then the ball fits on a little pedestil then you screw back on the barrel.The trigger disapears until you cock the hammer back after you put the primer powder in the prisim. the gun is small mayybe 6 inches long.i would measure it but at the moment its in the mail to me. Can anybody help with what the heck it is.If needed i can take more pictures, thanks all.
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runswithscissors
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Post by runswithscissors on Feb 11, 2016 20:37:01 GMT
What you have is a Boxlock pocket pistol. These were the concealed carry guns of their day. Yours looks to be from the 1820's or so . hard to say for sure without seeing it. The "re-enforced" hammer / cock is generally found on later period flintlock arms ( 1800 or later ... ) Sometimes the makers name is on the gun , that would help with dating the pistol. As you noted these are breech loaders and inline to boot. Goes to show that the "modern inline muzzleloading guns" aren't that new after all. Andy
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Post by buliwyf on Feb 11, 2016 21:00:25 GMT
Thanks RWS the gun should be in the mail headed here from Mass. I appriciate you giving me some info on it.I looked for it in my 1913 bannermans catalog but couldnt find it.glad you know about it i'll check for markings on it when it gets here.
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Post by runswithscissors on Feb 11, 2016 21:06:32 GMT
Sure thing Buliwyf. Glad to help out . Looking forward to seeing more pics and maybe narrowing down what you got even more. Andy
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Post by buliwyf on Feb 14, 2016 14:55:42 GMT
Hello RWS heres another picture of another gun this one has a bit of an explanation with it.I'm wondering if they have any historic value as i would never sell it but i love history.It seems to be from the war of northern aggression (hey I'm in Georgia) for $10.00 i would by a bunch but it's not 1913
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Post by rodah on Feb 15, 2016 4:28:05 GMT
I would love to have any of those pre-historic guns as a sort of collections. And I would love to share this to my siblings so that they maybe aware. _____________________ wooden japanese swords
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Post by buliwyf on Feb 15, 2016 11:28:54 GMT
I think i know why these guns/revolvers never caught on.it is so heavy and unbalanced i would rather have a colt or remington than this piece of steel.For the time it was quick to load,one cartridge at a time sort of like a colt.i have read the troops like the remingtons break open style of loading better.
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Post by runswithscissors on Feb 15, 2016 14:42:24 GMT
Buliwyf, I not sure that your revolver is in its original from. Centerfire cartridges were not made until after the war ( late 1860's ) There were no Remingtons with a break action .... Smith & Wesson made break action revolvers that were tested and used by the Army in the 1870's One big issue with the S&W is when the extractor goes over the cartridge not under it, and you have a fired case stuck in the chamber ... This usually happened when a horde of angry Sioux were riding down on you ... Yikes! Andy
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Post by buliwyf on Feb 15, 2016 15:32:17 GMT
All i know about it is what it says from the bannermans catalog,when it gets here from Moms in Mass i'll look for a date.I swear I've seen documentarys on the civil war that the calvary had some break open revolvers.Mine has a small clip you have to open to get to the cylinder to load the carts one at a time.I put more pics up at a later date.Could it be pinfire and were those considered ccenterfire?
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Post by runswithscissors on Feb 16, 2016 2:38:34 GMT
Love more gun pics ! On Pinfire cartridges the firearms hammer struck a "Pin" which stuck out from the cartridge ... These often went off in your cartridge box or pocket. Andy
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Post by trond on Mar 1, 2016 19:40:47 GMT
Hi, To me this looks very much like a French made, Swedish used Lefaucheux 11 mm pin-fire revolver from around 1863 where the hammer and cylinder were changed to an 11 mm center-fire in 1879. If you roll down about 1/4 of the page on the link, you will find it: www.gotavapen.se/gota/artiklar/swedishpistols/swedpist_g.htmThere were two rather different models of these used in Sweden. The ones on the picture are Norwegian versions, but it is the #2 from the top I believe the Bannerman catalogue covers:
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