Luka
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Post by Luka on Oct 25, 2015 15:15:59 GMT
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Post by Dave Kelly on Oct 25, 2015 15:51:11 GMT
Both of these are 3d Republic 1890-1910 LCs. Probably sergeant's swords. The lack of a scabbard for the saber is a pain in the neck, because you'll probably never find one. Doubt either sword has anything to do with Officers or Cuirassiers. (Corporal Tomm strikes again.) These are legitimate period sidearms. You may not find them to be much as "weapons". I got a late period M1896 enlisted recently, of this same grade. For display.
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Post by Afoo on Oct 25, 2015 15:55:16 GMT
I was looking at the straight blade version. I tried to bid, but it says that it cannot be delivered to my PO box. Means that you will have to deal with UPS or another courier company rather than national post. Not a fan of that arrangement.
It looked legit in my eye tho
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Post by Luka on Oct 25, 2015 15:55:18 GMT
I'm interested in these basically for light cutting exercizes.
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Post by Uhlan on Oct 25, 2015 16:01:28 GMT
I might add that the first is severely pitted and the second has rust problems too. Both blades are a crime to get right. Also the scabbard has something wrong. It seems bend and pushed back. Anyway the paint looks like it is sprayed on. I always distrust paintjobs. They tend to cover a lot of pitting and severe rust and blend in dents in pictures. If you like to work on your sabres, go right ahead. Either one will cost you weeks of hard labour. As the sabres are not uncommon, I would wait for more expensive but clean ones with a good clean scabbard.
Edit: Neither one is a good cutter. These are Degen, stabbers mostly.
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Post by aronk on Oct 26, 2015 0:35:09 GMT
Typical Private-Tomm nonsense. Seconds or thirds from legitimate dealers sold at absurd prices.
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Post by Luka on Oct 26, 2015 0:45:17 GMT
Well, I didn't bid. Thanks guys. :)
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Post by Afoo on Oct 26, 2015 1:41:10 GMT
So, maybe I am still new at this, but I do not see what is so bad with the second one. Its certainly not mint, but I did not think it was awful. Especially if it goes for less than 200 usd
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Post by Uhlan on Oct 26, 2015 6:10:07 GMT
Fixing a blade like that is very labour intensive. One way or another you will have to deal with the rust in that square walled fuller. I did two of these recently and it was no joke. The time it took to do one of these is equal to fixing two M1822. Also, normally the scabbards are not painted. They come in nickel plate or high polish steel. If you want to take the chance to find loads of crud under that paint and dents that do not show because they are blended in by the paint job and peeling nickel, I mean, for peets sake. You can have a good one for a little more and a good one you can sell again later. Why bother? These are quite common. It would make sense to buy one in this sorry state if the basket was something special, like a custom made one for a Superior Officer. Then you would gain something for your $$$.
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Post by Afoo on Oct 26, 2015 16:57:39 GMT
I dunno - based on what I see around my area, its not bad. And I am not in the habit of restoring swords myself. I guess it depends on what you are looking for
Either way, UPS shipping is an automatic no gi, so its irrelevant to me either way :P
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Post by bfoo2 on Oct 27, 2015 4:45:32 GMT
Afoo, I'll have to disagree with you on that to an extent. Both of us collect swords more for the experience of holding holding a piece of history and satisfying curiosity as to how they handle, rather than as a monetary investment. I have a few swords that are in crap-stastic, rust-pitted, plating-peeling-off condition that I got because I knew they'd be fun to wave around (Italian 1873, your argentinian) or unique in some way. In fact, the ugly rustballs are even more fun as handling piece because I don't care too much if I accidentally smack it against a table (or that lousy miscreant making a racket outside my apartment at 1AM...) On the other hand, you don't know how something feels until you actually get your hands on it. If it's ugly, rusty and doesn't feel very nice, it's just gonna take up space...and good luck trying to sell it at anything other than a bottom-basement price. Also, shipping costs are the same whether you go for a cheapo rust-bucket or an expensive show-room condition piece...
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Post by Luka on Oct 27, 2015 11:08:48 GMT
Perfect finish or good resale value is not important to me, but a sword I buy must be in functional condition. So large nicks and deep pitting is a deal braker, but anything that can be polished off without compromising the durability is not an issue. But for this very reason swords meant more for parade then battle are not interesting to me except I really love how they look.
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