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Post by Timo Nieminen on Oct 10, 2015 6:07:47 GMT
It's brass. WW2 naval kai-gunto tsuba. Don't know where it was collected.
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Post by Kiyoshi on Oct 10, 2015 6:10:25 GMT
Either way, it's still pretty interesting. I think in the end though, we just don't have the reaction time or precision to cut a bullet mid flight. Still, always nice to speculate. Thanks for the cool stuff you've shared.
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Post by MOK on Oct 10, 2015 8:16:56 GMT
Definitely not. Which brings up how likely proper edge alignment would be. So, if we have arms like the hulk and precision like in the myths and we cut the bullet multiple feet away, we too can be samurai. I don't think mere feet will be sufficient to make the halves miss you, pretty sure you'd need several yards of distance. If you have arms like that, well, great for you! A better way would be to deflect the bullet, at a very oblique angle to minimize the impact, rather than just splitting it. Shouldn't take more of a master ninja to hit a speeding bullet either way... BTW, Mythbusters have also tested shooting a gun out of your hand. The force of a bullet wasn't enough to yank it out of one's grip... but the sheer shock of the impact was plenty enough to make one drop it, not to even mention the being peppered with bullet fragments.
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Post by Scott on Oct 10, 2015 11:11:01 GMT
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Post by StevenJ on Oct 10, 2015 13:05:37 GMT
^^ That breast plate was hit with an artillery round, huge difference between that and a musket or rifle. During the 17th, 18th, and 19th century saber and pistol were commonly worn by the same soldier or a musket with bayonet. There are times you can use knives or swords in combat with guns, at close range particularly when your opponent is having some kind of failure to feed or jam issue etc. Or in the case of pre-cartridges, in between volleys as snap cap or flint lock guns take FOREVER to load :D. Even then there were viable defenses against black powder such as thick steel bucklers or thick steel breast plates which did and can still repel bullets today up to a certain caliber and velocity. Hand to hand weapons will always have a use of some sort.
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Post by munk on Oct 11, 2015 2:19:15 GMT
Depending on the state you're in, open-carrying a sword is legal (at least in CO). Of course, that probably assumes the sword is sheathed. Open-carrying a pistol is also legal where I live, but walk around with that same pistol unholstered and you go from 2nd amendment to bean bags (or worse) in a jiffy -- I imagine it'd be the same with a sword.
If you're one of those people who would like to integrate carrying a katana with your everyday life, I say go for it. Just don't be surprised or offended if you're met with fear, discrimination, or hostility if you do. Businesses can ask you to leave their establishments even if you are carrying legally, people who have their CC permits might be a little itchy in your presence, law enforcement will almost certainly want to chat with you on a regular basis. Then there are the looks you'll get from everyone else. I personally wouldn't do it because I hate making scenes, and you'd basically be making a scene every time you left the house.
Or maybe if you live in a small town, they'll just come to accept it as part of your character!
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Post by Kiyoshi on Oct 11, 2015 3:25:36 GMT
Here in my state, you don't even need a permit to CC. Yet the laws on open carry of swords is ambiguous at best. So basically, open carry, legal, cc carry, legal, sword on your waist, depends on the judge. However, there doesn't seem to be any issue of me practicing swordsmanship in my front yard, regardless of whether the sword is real or not. I can cut stuff freely as well. Probably helps that I do it in uniform though. On a side note, airsoft guns weren't okay to have outside without written consent by the chief of police until open carry and cc were legal without a permit.
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Post by MOK on Oct 11, 2015 12:28:55 GMT
Here in my state, you don't even need a permit to CC. Yet the laws on open carry of swords is ambiguous at best. So basically, open carry, legal, cc carry, legal, sword on your waist, depends on the judge. However, there doesn't seem to be any issue of me practicing swordsmanship in my front yard, regardless of whether the sword is real or not. I can cut stuff freely as well. Probably helps that I do it in uniform though. On a side note, airsoft guns weren't okay to have outside without written consent by the chief of police until open carry and cc were legal without a permit. More probably, it helps that your yard is not a public space. Airsoft guns are quite reasonably not allowed in places that don't allow real guns because from any distance at all they look just like real guns, and there's simply no safe way for people (including the police) to know which is which until the trigger is pulled. Enough people get shot for "brandishing" toy guns as is.
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Post by Kiyoshi on Oct 11, 2015 15:11:30 GMT
More probably, it helps that your yard is not a public space. Airsoft guns are quite reasonably not allowed in places that don't allow real guns because from any distance at all they look just like real guns, and there's simply no safe way for people (including the police) to know which is which until the trigger is pulled. Enough people get shot for "brandishing" toy guns as is. Fair enough. We used ot have a sword fighting club in the park though, and they were pretty cool with that. We only used wooden weapons and we coned everything off and had on helmets, so that might have helped too.
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Post by MOK on Oct 11, 2015 18:36:55 GMT
Yeah, I got into swordsmanship with wooden swords in the park, too. Few people even looked twice, although this being Finland probably had something to do with that...
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Post by Kiyoshi on Oct 11, 2015 19:21:15 GMT
It was about the same here, except for the additional katana cultists and guys who wanted to get in on a fight to prove how tough they were. There were a couple who lost and showed some humility by asking for lessons if they joined. A few of them even became long term members.
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