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Post by sarobando on Oct 3, 2015 13:35:17 GMT
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Oct 3, 2015 20:52:36 GMT
Who makes reliable Chinese swords these days? The usual big players like Hanwei and Huanuo (who, apart from making what's sold under that name, also make swords for Dynasty Forge and Cold Steel), and others like Munetoshi, Zhisword, and swarms of Longquan sellers on Ebay and Aliexpress. If you want to get reliable information, the named makers above are a good choice. Known and consistent models, and sellers who give accurate info (and in English). For a Han jian, some possibilities are: The sword discussed here: sbg-sword-forum.forums.net/thread/45662/han-jian-swordnarmoryThe sword discussed here: sbg-sword-forum.forums.net/thread/45357/little-help-tiger-forge-athenaThe 2nd one you linked to: www.aliexpress.com/store/product/100-HAND-FORGE-CHINESE-SWORD-HAN-JIAN-PATTERN-STEEL-RAZOR-SHARP-BLADE/1665529_32443515710.htmllooks OK. On this, and other Han jian, the question is what lies under the grip. Who can tell from this ad? This one looks good, judging by their photo of the tang: www.ebay.com/itm/Hand-Forge-Chinese-Sword-Han-Jian-Pattern-Steel-Razor-Sharp-Alloy-Fitting-Ebony-/171851459239
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Post by Upasaka on Oct 4, 2015 3:35:40 GMT
I am trying to figure this question out for myself! So far, I can recommend Kult of Athena, with whom I had a positive experience (2 swords, both quality exceeding the pricepoint). While on the topic, might as well share two instances that made me a bit uneasy about the respective merchants. Ones I might choose to avoid…
First, there was WLE. I bought a sword from them a while back, which turned out to be over-hyped by their ad. Ok, two years went by and I was going to give them another shot. Since some of their swords were labeled “high carbon stainless steel”, I called them to find out exactly what such material was (a point clarified by Timo since). I explained that I wanted a high-carbon sword and was not interested in stainless steel. I was asked to call back when the owner was there. No problem! Now, for me, here’s the dilemma: the very next day after I expressed my strong dislike of stainless steel swords, all of the website descriptions were changed to “high-carbon corrosion resistant steel”. Do I trust or want to support a seller who obviously manipulates the product description based on customer feedback? Am I reading too much into this?
And then there was Zhisword. I am looking for a decent Tong4 gim3, so contacted Zhisword for some details on one of their products. Our correspondence ended with the following exchange (for the sake of space, I am omitting the earlier emails regarding sword details, shipping, etc.):
________________________________________ Hello,
Did you mean the folded steel blade with clay tempered Also the folded steel made of medium carbon steel and iron. It is the steel-making process. Also contain other element.
Regards, Alan ZhiSword Forge ________________________________________ Hi,
Yes, the folded steel blade with clay tempered process. I assume it is high-carbon, and wanted to know what type (e.g. 1065, 1095, etc.).
Thanks,
Kamil ________________________________________ Hello,
it is 1045 medium carbon steel. high carbon steel is too stiff to be folded.
Thank you
Alan ZhiSword Forge ________________________________________ Hi,
Really??? I own several mixed high-carbon, one 1065, and one 1095, all are hand-folded pattern steel. First time ever I hear something like this. Are we talking about the same thing?
Thanks,
Kamil ________________________________________ Hello,
Right,it is wrong, high carbon content steel is too stiff to be folded. Usually it is used for inner side for 3-sided construction Thank you!~ - zhisword ________________________________________
High-carbon steel can’t be folded?!?!?! This is news to me! Is there a more accurate explanation or is Alan smoking some good stuff? So far, this exchange makes me quite uncomfortable dealing with Zhisword... Am I possibly missing something that would explain this statement? (Please excuse my incompetence on this subject…)
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Oct 4, 2015 9:55:07 GMT
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Post by Walt66 on Oct 4, 2015 17:40:24 GMT
Sinosword make good blades.
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Post by ineffableone on Oct 4, 2015 23:00:47 GMT
High-carbon steel can’t be folded?!?!?! This is news to me! Is there a more accurate explanation or is Alan smoking some good stuff? So far, this exchange makes me quite uncomfortable dealing with Zhisword... Am I possibly missing something that would explain this statement? (Please excuse my incompetence on this subject…) This might be a language translation issue where they are not being clear in their meaning due to translations. What they might be trying to say is a high carbon steel blade will not be flexible enough? Their responses keep referring to high carbon steel as "too stiff" which would lead me to believe they are worried it would not allow the blade to flex as it should. They might not be saying it can't be folded, but that folding a high carbon steel in would lower the flexibility and cause problems.
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