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Post by Jussi Ekholm on Nov 26, 2016 12:14:06 GMT
You have pretty good MJER presence at Vancouver area. www.vancouveriaido.com/shinkenkai.ca/For kenjutsu in Vancouver you have at least www.sugawarabudo-vancouver.com/However just to note Tetsutaka Sugawara under whose lineage this branch of Katori is practiced in Vancouver was a former student of Otake Risuke but to my understanding he was expelled from mainline Tenshin Shoden Katori Shinto Ryu, and has continued teaching without approval of Otake Risuke. Therefore he does not teach the "real" Katori. Those more in the know can comment more.
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Post by Derzis on Nov 26, 2016 12:49:36 GMT
1. One very good Sensei is in Vancouver 2. Always
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Post by adversary on Nov 28, 2016 11:27:04 GMT
Fascinating. I'm definitely more interested in kenjutsu than iaido, i like the idea of katas i can do ad-nauseum on my own (i'm not averse to a lot of practice), and also a little less dangerous to practice kenjustu with a live blade than in iaido, but i might be wrong. I like both really. I'd prefer more traditional than say 'family' or something Westernized. I see a LOT of that in common martial arts like karate and Tae Kwon Do, though again i'm not sure if that happens in the far more esoteric sword arts.
Do people here practice this stuff?
Derzis, is that 'one very good sensei' one of the two Jussi linked by any chance? Both are about an hour's drive from me.
I've been utterly fascinated by this stuff for decades. When i retire in a couple years, i could see taking it up full time. Heh... if my knees are still up for it...
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Post by jammer on Nov 28, 2016 15:02:03 GMT
Fascinating. I'm definitely more interested in kenjutsu than iaido, i like the idea of katas i can do ad-nauseum on my own (i'm not averse to a lot of practice), and also a little less dangerous to practice kenjustu with a live blade than in iaido, but i might be wrong. I like both really. I'd prefer more traditional than say 'family' or something Westernized. I see a LOT of that in common martial arts like karate and Tae Kwon Do, though again i'm not sure if that happens in the far more esoteric sword arts. Do people here practice this stuff? Derzis, is that 'one very good sensei' one of the two Jussi linked by any chance? Both are about an hour's drive from me. I've been utterly fascinated by this stuff for decades. When i retire in a couple years, i could see taking it up full time. Heh... if my knees are still up for it... Kenjutsu uses (normally ryu specific) bokuto, iai uses live blades. It is too dangerous to use live blades for kenjutsu. If you are an older gentleman, then iai is a great starting point. You should start on the latter 8 kata of znkr, and eventually move onto oku kata as soon as you are accepted.
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Post by adversary on Nov 29, 2016 11:42:50 GMT
Kenjutsu uses (normally ryu specific) bokuto, iai uses live blades. It is too dangerous to use live blades for kenjutsu. Even for kata? Thats what i was envisioning... live blades for kata. I've never been to a club, though i may have watched far too many movies... Heh... No, i am not an older gentleman... though i can see how that might come across in the posts. I'm plenty young, though my 'career' has left me with some fairly ornery knees... it comes and it goes. Moving around like any typical martial arts would be no problem, i'm pretty damn fast and flexible for my size (Olympic lifting will do that for you). Up and down, up and down from the floor, that i honestly cant say. Hopefully i can do both.
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Post by Derzis on Nov 30, 2016 13:35:40 GMT
Derzis, is that 'one very good sensei' one of the two Jussi linked by any chance? Both are about an hour's drive from me. This is the one I was talking about, Inoue Sensei: www.vancouveriaido.com/clubinfo.htm But regardless, you have great options at 1hour away - make them count.
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Post by adversary on Nov 30, 2016 14:20:18 GMT
Derzis, is that 'one very good sensei' one of the two Jussi linked by any chance? Both are about an hour's drive from me. This is the one I was talking about, Inoue Sensei: www.vancouveriaido.com/clubinfo.htm But regardless, you have great options at 1hour away - make them count.
Excellent. Thanks. Hopefully i can get on this sooner than later.
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Post by Kiyoshi on Dec 1, 2016 6:30:33 GMT
Even for kata? Thats what i was envisioning... live blades for kata. I've never been to a club, though i may have watched far too many movies... Live blades for kenjutsu kata are very dangerous as most of the kata are paired. For single exercises like suburi, that's not as bad as long as you are skilled and careful.
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Post by adversary on Dec 2, 2016 9:05:04 GMT
Even for kata? Thats what i was envisioning... live blades for kata. I've never been to a club, though i may have watched far too many movies... Live blades for kenjutsu kata are very dangerous as most of the kata are paired. For single exercises like suburi, that's not as bad as long as you are skilled and careful. Okay, forgive the mix-up, coming from Tae Kwon Do (and done a verrrrry long time ago) kata was when you did practice strikes on your own, against invisible opponents. I assumed it was the same. Looked up suburi and yes, thats what i meant. Live blades for suburi. Heh... NOT live blades for kata. I've seen countless movies with guys doing suburi, presumably with live blades, and yeah, presumably to be taken as authentic. I even saw some guy doing suburi inside an abandoned castle when i was in Germany. He looked pretty damn skilled, unfortunately, i didn't get to talk to him.
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Post by Kiyoshi on Dec 3, 2016 8:19:48 GMT
Yeah, even in JSA, kata means different things. In kendo, they have these paired kata, they have suburi, but they also have drills that are paired that aren't necessarily considered kata. In iaido, they have both paired and single kata, and paired and single drills. Like a lot of things in Japanese, it depends on the context, lol.
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Post by adversary on Dec 3, 2016 11:18:34 GMT
Soooooooo much to learn...
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