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Post by Daniel P on Sept 16, 2015 15:03:39 GMT
Hello, I recently was offered an opportunity to purchase this sword which was found in the Caribbean 10 years ago. I live in St Thomas, USVI. I am very interested in this sword but I have no clue of its authenticity. I would appreciate and advice and help as possible. Thanks Dan
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Post by randomnobody on Sept 16, 2015 15:14:40 GMT
Can't tell you anything without pictures, or at least a verbal description.
The Caribbean is something of a major hub in trade, so it could be from anywhere. I find know of any swords native to the area, though...
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Post by Daniel P on Sept 16, 2015 15:17:36 GMT
I'm new to this forum and I don't know how to upload the pics I have.
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Post by randomnobody on Sept 16, 2015 15:26:29 GMT
If they're on your PC, in the "post reply" menu there should be an "add attachment" button. That's the easiest way. Otherwise, pick a hosting service like Photobucket or Imgur and upload it there, then copy and paste the host URL of the image between and [/IMG] tags to embed it into your post.
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Post by Daniel P on Sept 16, 2015 15:56:12 GMT
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Post by randomnobody on Sept 16, 2015 16:28:33 GMT
Some kind of saber, possibly a military pattern. Outside my realm, I'll open the floor to Dave Kelly, Timo, Pinotte, and whoever else I'm forgetting.
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Post by L Driggers (fallen) on Sept 16, 2015 17:13:24 GMT
Think he has to have an account to post pictures. Didn't even think guest could post anymore.
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Post by randomnobody on Sept 16, 2015 17:23:25 GMT
Oh, I didn't even realize he was a guest. That could be causing some issues with posting...
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Post by Daniel P on Sept 16, 2015 17:48:10 GMT
Yes I am a guest awaiting approval!
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Post by randomnobody on Sept 16, 2015 17:59:18 GMT
Well, all righty then. When you get your account approved, posting will be easier.
I'm increasingly irritated by feeling like I should recognize it, but I still can't place it. My first few Google's didn't get anywhere, and now I'm in for an unexpected work shift, so I'll look again later.
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Post by manya4421 on Sept 16, 2015 18:03:32 GMT
Thanks guys I'm approved now. Thanks for all the help. Eager to find out what I have my hands on.
Cheers
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Post by nddave on Sept 16, 2015 23:00:08 GMT
It looks pretty rusted but can you see any stamps or engraving on the blade or guard? That's usually the first step when looking at something that could be antique or not.
It looks like a good ol' pirate hanger but that arises more suspicion to me anyway if it's authentic or not. Could be something from yesteryear could be a good job of taking a wallhanger, rusting it out and calling it an antique.
I'm sure here soon when they get on the board that a few of our more knowledgeable members will chime in and offer better information.
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Post by randomnobody on Sept 17, 2015 19:17:03 GMT
Hanger seems like a fair guess. Can't seem to find any quite right, though, via Google. Closest I've gotten is this example: perryadamsantiques.com/shop/american-hanger-sword-with-original-scabbard/May not even be a pattern, could be a one-off, in which case we may never know what it is. Definitely look for any stamps or other markings around the base of the blade or the guard. If you can see any, try to get some good pictures of them.
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Post by Afoo on Sept 21, 2015 19:07:48 GMT
My bet is its an American Artillery Sword from the 1812 era - I found one example on oldswords.com which looks similar. www.oldswords.com/database/viewItem.php?id=12848Most seemed to have had normal blades, but pipe-back blades could have been made for them on individual request. Yours looks to be missing the grip wrappings etc, and is in rough shape
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2015 1:15:15 GMT
Unfortunately, Old Swords is only as good as the sales listing unless updated. That listing is flawed and not an American made sword, nor specifically artillery. That one looks continental European and like the grenadier swords of the Dutch and other lowland countries.
The sword posted by the guest is a plain stirrup guard sabre suited to infantry work. The grip has been replaced. Considering the thousands of possibilities, the featured sword was probably before the American 1812 war but of the generation of swords from the 1780s-1810 or so. Without good clear views of the blade and any marks, it is not necessarily American in any way or form. I doubt it was made in America.
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