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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2008 14:11:12 GMT
Does anyone know of a online resource for one handed sword techniques? Are there any JSA that predominately use one handed techniques? And if so would you mind posting some links?From my research, study I've come to realize that most techniques are two handed so I'm looking for something that might be a little obscure. Thanks
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2008 10:41:52 GMT
As far as I know there is no JSA that predominantly uses one handed sword techniques. The reason is that the one handed Japanese swords were not used as a primary weapon, but secondary. Obviously quite a few arts do one handed cuts with a katana, usually when drawing in iaido, the focus is two-handed. 2 sword fighting is probably the closest you are going to get (like musashi) where the katana and wakizashi are wielded simultaniously, one in each hand.
I may be wrong though, feel free to add if anyone knows about one handed JSA?
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2008 10:51:56 GMT
The only one handed techniques I know are in ninjitsu and not the bujinkan stuff that is predominant these days, you need the traditional japanese ninjitsu for those kind of techniques.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2008 22:05:45 GMT
While not a JSA the Ssong so Do used ny Gumdo practitioners is very similar to a Katana, they do a few one handed cuts.
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Post by salvatore on May 9, 2008 2:38:57 GMT
Niten-ichi ryu or Gumdo is your best bet.
So, yeah...I do not think there are any one sword styles...If I find anything, I'll tell ya.
Hope you find what is bests suited for you.
Sal
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2008 16:14:17 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2008 18:01:15 GMT
Most of the two-handed techniques can be done one-handed as well.
As a rule in JSA, the left hand stays on the saya, out of harm's way.
Some of the old schools have sets for wakizashi alone.
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Post by ninjavanish76 on Jul 12, 2008 2:08:04 GMT
The only one handed techniques I know are in ninjitsu and not the bujinkan stuff that is predominant these days, you need the traditional japanese ninjitsu for those kind of techniques. I agree with bloodwraith on this,I have a mixed training background but many years in the study and training of bujinkan.In a advanced class I take we have been working on one hand sword work,so you might want to look at ninjutsu:)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2008 11:22:24 GMT
I've encountered one handed techniques not even in the advanced class but then my sempai trains us very differently to normal ninjitsu belts and gradings and things.
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Post by ninjavanish76 on Jul 12, 2008 12:31:55 GMT
I also wanted to add that wile most people in my class are useing a lighter sword,I am useing my wind katana.This one handed sword work did feel a little wiered for me at first but i'm now doing fine:)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2008 14:36:36 GMT
I use my sakura which is a fairly heavy katana for my one handed practice, it is hard but ultimately very rewarding. Doing one handed work with a katana is very strange to start with but as you get used to it and you build it into your muscle memory it gets easier.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2008 15:23:56 GMT
There is a difference between one handed and using two swords - which is the intended purpose of this thread?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2008 3:33:13 GMT
You will find that a lot of JSA will use a one handed cut which is usually followed by two handed. As mentioned Iaido use these in their kata and also there is Battodo. Often the batto giri (draw cut) will be first in a kata as it is fast and is often a slash to disconcert the enemy and is then followed by the two handed killing cut or cuts.
There is more power in the two hand cuts and it would not be good to get your sword stuck in the opponent. A one handed Kesa giri (diagonal) to the neck would probably get stuck in the bones it meets.
The Japanese sword is rather versatile in this way.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2008 7:50:50 GMT
You will find that a lot of JSA will use a one handed cut which is usually followed by two handed. As mentioned Iaido use these in their kata and also there is Battodo. Often the batto giri (draw cut) will be first in a kata as it is fast and is often a slash to disconcert the enemy and is then followed by the two handed killing cut or cuts. There is more power in the two hand cuts and it would not be good to get your sword stuck in the opponent. A one handed Kesa giri (diagonal) to the neck would probably get stuck in the bones it meets. The Japanese sword is rather versatile in this way. Yes the original question is a bit general, many times a cut may start as a one-handed grip and end as a two handed grip. In Shinto muso ryu there is a kata from Omote called Hissage, which is performed with a wakizashi which (if you had not have already guessed) would be performed using just one hand. Also comes to mind a kata called Ichi rei, from Omote as well. Where the sword is drawn with one hand very quickly across the chest( to stop an overhead blow by your opponent armed with a jo) where your left hand reaches up and supports the mune of the blade at about the P.O.B. Followed by then grabbing the tsuka with both hands for the next cut. So as you can probably grasp menukisan, many different koryu and JSA in general, use one handed methods within their teachings. I felt in a similar way to yourself at one point with regards to wanting to learn something a 'little obscure', which is how I found SMR Jodo ) If you feel like something entertaining, there is always the old Zatoichi( Shintaro Katsu) with his one-handed/reverse grip Iai. (I never get sick of watching the old Zat. movies)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2008 13:31:08 GMT
Sorry about my omission of the Koryu arts. In my head I had that there but somehow omitted a major sector of practice. I personally am not involved in Koryu (but have had many sessions practicing the techniques). I have also seen some Koryu demonstrations. These old arts have these single hand techniques and they are the proven through battle bits that have survived the old test of time with the surviver living to tell the tale.
I think that gradings actually began in this way.
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