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Post by Croccifixio on Sept 3, 2015 10:52:56 GMT
I asked the good folks at EAA about what to do with my recently purchased antique kris. I had read up around there, and there seems to be two branches of thought: maintain or restore. Maintenance would require simply removing all active rust, verdigris, and silver tarnish, keeping the dull, yellowish-red patina of the blade. Restoration meant removing all rust, verdigris, and tarnish, re-polishing the blade, re-etching it, and repairing any broken parts. Since the consensus seemed to be that it was a post-WWII piece (though finely made and laminated), I opted for restoration. I had never done this before, but wanted to try my hand at it so I took the plunge. In any case, no broken pieces meant a much easier restoration job. So this blade went from this: To this:
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Post by Croccifixio on Sept 3, 2015 11:02:00 GMT
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Post by deadlyweapon on Mar 2, 2016 23:07:58 GMT
Very nice ! Damn thing looks good before you restored it. Awesome job bro ! It's an antique for sure because most of the modern ones don't have a proper heat treated edge like yours. The "Greneng" or "Face Rake" as I call it of your Kris seems to be an older style. Greneng is the name for guard on Kris swords. I have a modern Kris and I know the quality of my blade is not as solid as yours. I'm sure yours will bite my Blade no problem since these newer ones are most likely forged from Spring Steel and not folded as much as the older ones. Yours blade is a grandpa with better steel than mine. But my young Moro Kris is a good looking silver studded piece instrument of death with 13 Luks. Also, I can see that your handle is wrapped in braided Rattan fibers. Rub at least 2mm thick of bees wax all over it I will post more detail of this blade when I have time. Forged in Mindanao, Philippines.
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Post by randomnobody on Mar 3, 2016 1:54:09 GMT
Wow, I thought I posted in this thread ages ago, but apparently not. Must've glanced at it, thought I left a comment, and moved on.
Since I didn't, nice Kris. Good job cleaning it up, too. I keep telling myself I'll add one or two to my own growing assortment of sharp things, but haven't gotten around to it yet.
deadlyweapon: Yours isn't bad, either. What's the story to those "dots" all around the edge?
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Post by deadlyweapon on Mar 4, 2016 0:31:13 GMT
Wow, I thought I posted in this thread ages ago, but apparently not. Must've glanced at it, thought I left a comment, and moved on. Since I didn't, nice Kris. Good job cleaning it up, too. I keep telling myself I'll add one or two to my own growing assortment of sharp things, but haven't gotten around to it yet. deadlyweapon: Yours isn't bad, either. What's the story to those "dots" all around the edge? Silver inlay. I'm pretty sure its not high quality silver tho. Looks sterling to me. Will take a Macro shot of inlay beside a silver earring when I have time.
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Post by randomnobody on Mar 4, 2016 1:20:52 GMT
Oh, cool. An odd aesthetic choice, but neat.
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Post by Croccifixio on Mar 4, 2016 14:19:36 GMT
Very nice ! Damn thing looks good before you restored it. Awesome job bro ! It's an antique for sure because most of the modern ones don't have a proper heat treated edge like yours. The "Greneng" or "Face Rake" as I call it of your Kris seems to be an older style. Greneng is the name for guard on Kris swords. I have a modern Kris and I know the quality of my blade is not as solid as yours. I'm sure yours will bite my Blade no problem since these newer ones are most likely forged from Spring Steel and not folded as much as the older ones. Yours blade is a grandpa with better steel than mine. But my young Moro Kris is a good looking silver studded piece instrument of death with 13 Luks. Also, I can see that your handle is wrapped in braided Rattan fibers. Rub at least 2mm thick of bees wax all over it :) I will post more detail of this blade when I have time. Forged in Mindanao, Philippines. Yours seems to be a decent modern kris actually, not the typical Lanao del Sur-made cut-out blades. My kris is still my pride and joy, though it's been relegated to display in my office and I've barely handled it. It bit me a few times too - the thing is insanely sharp, even my katanas don't cut me the way this does.
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Post by deadlyweapon on Mar 12, 2016 5:16:19 GMT
Very nice ! Damn thing looks good before you restored it. Awesome job bro ! It's an antique for sure because most of the modern ones don't have a proper heat treated edge like yours. The "Greneng" or "Face Rake" as I call it of your Kris seems to be an older style. Greneng is the name for guard on Kris swords. I have a modern Kris and I know the quality of my blade is not as solid as yours. I'm sure yours will bite my Blade no problem since these newer ones are most likely forged from Spring Steel and not folded as much as the older ones. Yours blade is a grandpa with better steel than mine. But my young Moro Kris is a good looking silver studded piece instrument of death with 13 Luks. Also, I can see that your handle is wrapped in braided Rattan fibers. Rub at least 2mm thick of bees wax all over it I will post more detail of this blade when I have time. Forged in Mindanao, Philippines. Yours seems to be a decent modern kris actually, not the typical Lanao del Sur-made cut-out blades. My kris is still my pride and joy, though it's been relegated to display in my office and I've barely handled it. It bit me a few times too - the thing is insanely sharp, even my katanas don't cut me the way this does. Your Kris probably tasted Spanish and American blood bro ! My blade is virgin
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Post by legacyofthesword on Mar 16, 2016 2:29:39 GMT
Deadlyweapon - where did you get that kris? Custom job?
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Post by deadlyweapon on Mar 19, 2016 14:42:58 GMT
Deadlyweapon - where did you get that kris? Custom job? From yolac1891 eBay dealer from Davao Philippines. www.ebay.com/usr/yolac1891 Blades are forged in Mindanao and by the Moro people. The only if not the best Filipino Blade dealer in eBay. All of his blades are from the Moro Land. He specializes in Kris and Barongs and only sells 5 to 6 items in his page. He has a pattern. He would sell less than 10 unique blades at a time. Have nothing to sell for 2 to 3 weeks. Then have less than 10 items to sell on his page. This has been his pattern for 4 years. I have also bought Moro blades from him with white bone handle. So white it looks like ivory. The blades he sells are top notch for the price!
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Post by Croccifixio on Mar 19, 2016 16:17:32 GMT
Yep agree with that. Contacted him before, but he doesn't sell old antiques on ebay. He did tell me where to find them in Davao, though when I looked there weren't a whole lot of decent pieces left. I'm guessing most of them are in Manila already, in the US, and in the hands of local families.
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Post by deadlyweapon on Mar 19, 2016 18:14:20 GMT
Yep agree with that. Contacted him before, but he doesn't sell old antiques on ebay. He did tell me where to find them in Davao, though when I looked there weren't a whole lot of decent pieces left. I'm guessing most of them are in Manila already, in the US, and in the hands of local families. If you catch him on a right time you can get an antique piece from him. Some of his items are not antique but he claims it is. But some of his items are true antiques. From my estimate early 1900 pieces nothing pre 1900's tho; since I seen some of his scabbards decorated with old american coins. Most likely from US Philippines colonial times. I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. I have seen him sell items with same handle as yours with braided rattan. It's easy to tell juts by looking at materials used on the blades and ornaments on both blade and scabbard if its antique. No way ! lol I also just checked his site right now. He actually has a Barong which to me looks antique. Even has old american coins minted 1915 decorating the scabbard . Poor sailor must have been hacked to death and rob of his coins lol check pictures www.ebay.com/itm/111930703275
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Post by legacyofthesword on Mar 19, 2016 19:30:34 GMT
Deadlyweapon - where did you get that kris? Custom job? From yolac1891 eBay dealer from Davao Philippines. www.ebay.com/usr/yolac1891 Blades are forged in Mindanao and by the Moro people. The only if not the best Filipino Blade dealer in eBay. All of his blades are from the Moro Land. He specializes in Kris and Barongs and only sells 5 to 6 items in his page. He has a pattern. He would sell less than 10 unique blades at a time. Have nothing to sell for 2 to 3 weeks. Then have less than 10 items to sell on his page. This has been his pattern for 4 years. I have also bought Moro blades from him with white bone handle. So white it looks like ivory. The blades he sells are top notch for the price! Thanks. He's got some nice looking stuff.
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Post by Croccifixio on Mar 21, 2016 6:47:39 GMT
Yep agree with that. Contacted him before, but he doesn't sell old antiques on ebay. He did tell me where to find them in Davao, though when I looked there weren't a whole lot of decent pieces left. I'm guessing most of them are in Manila already, in the US, and in the hands of local families. If you catch him on a right time you can get an antique piece from him. Some of his items are not antique but he claims it is. But some of his items are true antiques. From my estimate early 1900 pieces nothing pre 1900's tho; since I seen some of his scabbards decorated with old american coins. Most likely from US Philippines colonial times. I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. I have seen him sell items with same handle as yours with braided rattan. It's easy to tell juts by looking at materials used on the blades and ornaments on both blade and scabbard if its antique. No way ! lol I also just checked his site right now. He actually has a Barong which to me looks antique. Even has old american coins minted 1915 decorating the scabbard . Poor sailor must have been hacked to death and rob of his coins lol check pictures :) www.ebay.com/itm/111930703275That's been there a few months now. I think the reason people haven't pulled the trigger on it is that the scabbard is definitely new. Since the pics don't really show the patination, it might not be that old. Also the scribed silver sleeve is a bit crude. Otherwise an excellent sword. The flow of the blade actually looks so sexy with that forward curved slope on the spine. One of those Yakan Pira has long been an item I think is not only an antique, but also has an amazing laminations on it.
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