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Post by Brendan Olszowy on Aug 14, 2015 5:32:23 GMT
Hi Dave Congrats on the new purchase. The tricky thing with the Suontaka is that there no modern replicas which are even within a mile of the original. The biggest thing being that the original is made with hollow bronze parts, with only very thin walls. Check out these close up photos of the original: www.sword-site.com/thread/555/sword-womans-grave-suontaka-finlandSo it would have likely been very light actually. Maybe 900g to 1kg? (2-2.2lb?) Can I ask which are the 8 Type AE's you mention? I've just done a replica of the Type AE at Copenhagen, with painstaking attention to detail, though solid data was not forthcoming. It weighs in at 1.0kg (2.2lb) with solid steel hilt furniture and a timber grip. see sbg-sword-forum.forums.net/thread/45433/foahamr-petersen-replica-danish-nationalAlso I made a note about these hilts. You might want to have a look at that too. I believe the grip on the original would have been 77-83mm ballpark. Which for this type is ample, and greatly improves the handling and recovery. The Windlass blade looks pretty Ahistorical - it's got that thick diamond section tip, and a lack of distal taper, evidenced by the parallel sides of the fuller. Where that diamond tip is should only be 2mm thick. I bet it's at least 4. For sure the corrosion of the tip really makes it hard to identify type, especially when the rest of the blade doesn't look quite that bad (though still pretty messed up).
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Post by StevenJ on Aug 14, 2015 6:44:47 GMT
Brendan, you do really great work as a custom sword smith but this is a budget $300 replica. For what it is it seems pretty good. Dave, another great review. I'm not a big fan of viking swords personally, grip is too small, forced hammer grip, and narrow cross guard. This one seems like a decent budget piece. If you were willing to work on it you could grind it down your self to taper it. I've done it before it's not hard, just requires some power tools and hand tools, plus time. Are the pommel and guard real copper/ bronze or did they cheap out and use pot metal like on the Conan swords Windlass made? It does look good.
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Post by LemuelTheLemur on Aug 14, 2015 8:00:18 GMT
I have to commend windlass for taking on such a visually complex piece, they actually did a decent job of it. The handling sounds subpar, the finish is somewhat lacking, and the scabbard was clearly an afterthought, but despite the flaws it's still a decent package at the price point considering the alternatives. If the looks appeals to you and you don't want to be tied to a more expensive model this has some appeal. Sonny Suttles will soon offer his own version. which will probably be in the 600.00 range at least.
I haven't discussed price point with Sonny yet, but I imagine it'll tip over $700.
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Post by Luka on Aug 14, 2015 11:36:01 GMT
For windlass kind of price this looks and sounds pretty good. Certainly better and more accurate than Darksword version which is more expensive.
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Aug 14, 2015 11:59:04 GMT
The Windlass blade doesn't look Viking. To me it looks very much like an Oakshott X. Type X is the classic late Viking blade. Half of Oakeshott's type X specimens are Viking. Get rid of that diamond section at the tip past the fuller, and maybe round of the tip a little, and it's a fair Viking blade (or a fair type X blade).
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Post by Afoo on Aug 14, 2015 14:40:58 GMT
Great review - like StevenJ, not a huge fan of viking swords, but this one does look nice. Not sure about the copper furniture though - it looks a *bit* over done if you ask me. What is that stuff though? Is it actual copper, or some strange concoction? Material aside, the workmanship on the furniture engravings, as well as the fit and finish, is quite impressive for the price point. Thanks for sharing
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Post by William Swiger on Aug 14, 2015 15:03:24 GMT
Good review Dave. Sword looks alright for the price.
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Post by Sir Thorfinn on Aug 14, 2015 18:17:42 GMT
When I was in the MRL store in Atlanta a month or so ago, I got to hold one of these...did a quickie review too. Which I can't find right now...bah. Anyhow, the hilt and all furniture I was told is copper plated brass, not the Windlass mystery metal. To my eye, the copper looks like it was washed by dark varnish to get the color they've got on it. If I had one of these, and had a wild hair to do it...maybe a good soak in various thinners to remove any lacquer/paint and you'd get a very different look. But you'd need one of these to destroy to test.
I disagree with Dave on the handling point, to me, this one felt like my Ulfbhert, so not a tip heavy or dead. All in all though, for the price, its a very pretty sword that looks to be functional.
Two thumbs up to Dave for making the plunge on this one, and the great review!
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Post by Bryan Heff on Aug 14, 2015 20:07:58 GMT
I grabbed the Sticklestad Viking a few weeks ago...and it has a very similar blade as this. Both are less than 2 inches (1.75) at the base and about the same length (and obviously both type X)...I just looked at mine vs what you have posted here and they are close, but I am thinking not the same blade. Just an observation.
I can't help think that a slightly wider blade on this would kick butt.
Great review as always Dave.
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Post by Afoo on Aug 15, 2015 4:59:56 GMT
The infamous Kelly comparo chart makes its appearance :P
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Post by Sir Thorfinn on Aug 20, 2015 0:44:54 GMT
Lol... Dave, I love your charts...
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