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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2008 15:23:28 GMT
I swear I will hunt you down and make you if this turns out to be an empty promise! These blades are too good to let fall by the wayside, do you know how many of us would kill to have the experience and knowledge, not to mention training you have had?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2008 16:45:26 GMT
Wanna help out? www.paragonweb.com/KM45D.cfmthat is the last peice of the puzzle, yes I can heat treat in a forge or make any other sort of ramshackle setup with weed burners or whatever, but I refuse to go with less then perfect accuracy, which is partly the reason I have so many unheatreated blades. To date I have not had the oppurtunity to use a kiln or the advantage of being able to send out to a heat treater which Brenno can attest to for long blades is NOT the best idea. So there it is the reason behind why I never finish anything, it might sound stupid but anything less than pure consitency I refuse to settle for.
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Post by Brendan Olszowy on Jun 9, 2008 3:39:43 GMT
The problem with the suspension manufacturer is that they quench horizontally. On a curved blade such as this the worst that could happen is that the curve could go up or down slightly, which wouldn't be the end of the world. It's mainly the double edged blades that are the problem.
They heat treat from a kiln and they Temper at 400C which should give about 50Rc so that's all good.
If you finished some blades you could sell them, then be able to afford $2400 for the kiln. Chicken and egg...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2008 1:20:31 GMT
Problem is I don't always make curvy blades hehe, and there isn't any HT facility I would trust close by anyway. Plus, need the kiln to finish the blades anyway and not enough for a down payment, but that's not the point. There is good, good enough, and perfect, to settle for any less than perfect (for some aspects, specifically heat treating) atleast in my book is just not acceptable.
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Post by Brendan Olszowy on Jun 10, 2008 11:10:50 GMT
The problem with that is the war will come and go and you still won't have a sword. I reckon just heat treat them on the forge, and if they break you learn something. I'm sure they'll still make very servicable blades. Then sell them and get onto some more.
Plenty of time for perfection if you live that long. If you die tomorrow you will have never finished your swords. Live for now, with what god gave you. Some philosophies say you can only advance if you more than fulfil your current role - that of a kilnless smitty.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2008 23:59:52 GMT
The problem with that is the war will come and go and you still won't have a sword. I reckon just heat treat them on the forge, and if they break you learn something. I'm sure they'll still make very servicable blades. Then sell them and get onto some more. Plenty of time for perfection if you live that long. If you die tomorrow you will have never finished your swords. Live for now, with what god gave you. Some philosophies say you can only advance if you more than fulfil your current role - that of a kilnless smitty. What's the use of breaking a sword? To learn something? Like, how not to have them break in the first place? No need to waste the time and effort and make a blade just to break it when the knowledge is there on how to treat them so they don't. If I made 1 sword up to my standards, and died the next day I would be happier than if I made 100 OK swords. Whatever philosophies/philosophers tell others what to do or how far you can go, can stuff it . Like I said Bren there is good enough, and there is your very best, for me anything less than the very best would not be satisfactory. Not to the point where I will stress over one detail of one angle for years or anything, but to the point where things have to be just so. I know of a few makers (not yourself I am in no way implying that) that make beautiful blades, but the HT is poor, but people love the looks so much they don't seem to care about performance and that's terrible because what are they buying then? EXPENSIVE WALLHANGERS. Do the customers expect performance? I think they think it is implyed and they think it so. Is there an abligation for that maker That might be fine with that maker but for me if the car don't look good AND go fast, what's the use? I gotta ask brenno, when you set out to make your own swords, what was your main goal?
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Post by Brendan Olszowy on Jun 17, 2008 15:01:21 GMT
Hey Sam My main goal when making my swords was to make something that I KNEW was tough as nails, mega tang, good steel, good heat treat, and that there was nothing else in the world like it. Also that I got burnt paying $325 and waiting 6 months for a sword that was meant to be the dux nuts, and was poor - I vowed never again.
Sam, let me ask how can you deliver your 'very best' and nothing short, if you don't try and try again. Practice makes perfect. You don't get it on your first heat treat. But if you start now, you could be a master heat treater in 12 months. Or if you had started 12 months ago... you know.
Then you can deliver the goods you promise yourself. But at this rate you could die having never grown.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2008 0:31:18 GMT
Hey Sam My main goal when making my swords was to make something that I KNEW was tough as nails, mega tang, good steel, good heat treat, and that there was nothing else in the world like it. So how would you feel if someone else was telling you how it should be done instead of the way you are doing it when you KNOW just what you are doing and don't really care?
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Post by Brendan Olszowy on Jun 19, 2008 1:21:00 GMT
C'mon Sam. I don't really care either if we never see an SS sword complete. I was trying to encourage you.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2008 1:28:18 GMT
Thanks for the thoughts but it isn't needed, I know what I am doing.
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Post by Brendan Olszowy on Jun 19, 2008 1:45:26 GMT
It's cool, i love you man, I don't want to hurt your feelings and tell you how to suck eggs. I just like to see your accomplishments. Good luck with the Heat Treats.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2008 2:05:08 GMT
You are not the first hehe. Just you keep up your good work and get ready for judgement day When I DO finish something ROFL.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2008 4:08:50 GMT
got a new type of guard design based off what I thought a sword looked like from an avatar, but on seeing bigger and better pictures of the sword it wasn't so, but I liked how much I thought it looked as to draw it out.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2008 4:30:30 GMT
I....want to cry a little, I knew you were good but man you're really good. even if you don't finish the heat treating on one of these things it would all be good, they are just so beautiful, I really mean it. I would really like to see you finish some more, even without the heat treating, even if you just sell the blades so someone else can heat treat them I think it would be great. I don't know how to give karmas but I would really like to give you one for that saber. It really is great man.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2008 18:41:29 GMT
something I was wondering about after looking at the pictures again is the saber that you made, was the point supposed to be so low or will that be fixed when you heat treat the blade. Also, the way the blade is designed, I would assume that it would give the blade greater cutting potential, because of the rate of curvature but I guess that depends on how you intended to use the blade.
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Post by genocideseth on Feb 8, 2009 7:40:23 GMT
I love the hammer finish on the saber! Are you gonna keep it like that? I think it looks fantastic!
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