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Post by Jeff K. ( Jak) on Apr 21, 2008 20:55:19 GMT
Does anyone have any sparring experience with any of Albions Maestro Line? Particularly the Liechtenauer and the 1:33. I might consider the Meyer as well. Are they worth the money, and as durable as they claim?
Coming from Albion I'd expect them to be pretty top of the line and meant for steel on steel use, but since I've never even SEEN an Albion let alone hadled one, I'm interested to know how they handle and what to expect. Most of the swords from Windlass and Hanwei, i'm not sure I'd trust as sparring swords, integrity wise, so how does Albion measure up?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2008 21:00:24 GMT
I have a Liechtenauer, or rather I ordered one and it was just shipped - so i'll let you know.
My roommate/sparring-training-partner/BFF ordered a Meyer.
A comparison review will follow once they arrive.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2008 21:02:40 GMT
Arma uses some Albion maestros, as do the Real Gladiatores(look up 'Fechten Mit Dem Langen Schwerts' on youtube).
They're commented on being lighter and easier to handle than some heavy duty sparring swords, but being very durable. One reviewer initally was worried as it seemed to wear down quickly vs. some heavy duty swords his friends used, but as it turned out that was merely due to the (comparitive) high level of finish albion brings them to vs. most.
I expect them to be easily on par with Pavel Moc or Lutel blunts.
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Post by Jeff K. ( Jak) on Apr 21, 2008 21:24:34 GMT
I see, well maybe I'll give 'em a go, then. Personally Im partial to the Liechteauer over the Meyer, but I cant help but wonder if those Flared lugs would aid or hinder you in certain moves. I'd ike your opinion after some hands on sparing. When you thrust forward to connect with your opponents blade with your guard to move to a hip-toss, leg-toss, or grapple, for instance, will those lugs be useful or just get in the way. Sorry, while I understand a fair bit of German, I don't know the terminology. Im going to order some books on technique, Tobler, Liechtenauer, Wagner & Hand.
Well maybe I'll go for the 1:33 first and wait for some feeback on the longswords before I decide.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2008 21:31:27 GMT
The 'flared lugs' make it a federschwert or 'feather sword'. They allow the blade to be slimmer and lighter while maintaining mass in front of the guard for proper handling characteristics. Also, they can help protect the fingers from your opponent's blade when learning and practicing certain maneuvers in the german system.
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Post by Jeff K. ( Jak) on Apr 21, 2008 21:44:45 GMT
Interesting, yeah, the Meyer, while the same length as the Liechtenauer, is a few oz lighter and the CoB is a few cm closer to the guard. It will be interesting to know how much faster that will make it than the Liech, if at all.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2008 7:49:27 GMT
I've heard that the Meyer is in fact the more lively of the two.
The liechtenauer is meant to represent earlier period training swords, 14th century, early 15th. The meyer is a bit later - 16th century clear up until the early 1600s(when Meyer was big, obviously).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2008 8:19:51 GMT
Everyone I have ever met that could afford one has told me it's worth every penny...so I'd say it's worthwhile if you can afford it.
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