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Post by justin520 on Jun 10, 2015 10:15:14 GMT
Can anybody tell me if their knives are users or display pieces. Cause if they are good I'd use some of their bowie knives for carry.
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Post by Draven on Jun 15, 2015 22:20:26 GMT
To the best of my knowledge, none of their knives are made by or for them. I don't recall seeing anything there I hadn't seen elsewhere. With that in mind, I think you'd need to be more specific to get a good answer. Do you have a few in particular in mind? They have some well-known and some less well-known stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2015 23:05:09 GMT
I have bought items from them and the customer service is top notch. I did buy a belt knife from them a long time ago and it is a very sturdy but chunky knife. Stamped India and unsharpened. Once sharpened, it had a very keen and durable edge. They have had some Solingen blades for knife buiding. Prices have gone up a bit. I have always been called when something is back ordered, out of stock or discontinued.
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Post by justin520 on Jun 16, 2015 1:24:43 GMT
I'm looking specifically at their bowie knife section. None of the Pakistani Damascus either. The Kentucky bowie it's really my style and there's a few others I dig.
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Post by Draven on Jun 16, 2015 2:16:25 GMT
Definitely steer clear of the damascus, but I'd consider anything with 'solingen' and 'carbon steel' a safe gamble. Carbon steels are hard to get wrong. However, without a brand, it's still impossible to say for sure
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Post by justin520 on Jun 16, 2015 2:26:27 GMT
I hope it's a safe bet because they'll be used as carry knives. In other words I'm trusting my life too their quality. I know it's the man and not the knife, but it's kinda the knife to.
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Post by Draven on Jun 16, 2015 3:08:30 GMT
In that case, I wouldn't go for something of unknown quality. My EDC knife is a Becker BK16 with OD green micarta grips and one of the sheaths I've made for it. I modified it to have a finer grind, but it still holds a great edge and is tough as all hell. I wouldn't recommend any knife over a becker if durability is a concern.
I also have a a couple sogs (bowie 2.0 and seal pup) that are nicely made combat knives, though less durable. I have an Enzo nordic (kits available through Thomson's scandinavian knife supply I believe) that makes a great northern woods knife, paired with an axe. Moras are dirt cheap and of known and reliable quality.
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Post by justin520 on Jun 16, 2015 3:16:27 GMT
Thing is, is purely a defensive tool, and I want something traditional looking with a long blade, between nine and twelve inches.
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Post by justin520 on Jun 16, 2015 3:20:45 GMT
Crazy crow also has the best prices for traditional style bowie knives. So I'm hunting for info because price doesn't necessarily dictate fit and finish quality. I'm currently carrying a windlass bowie and it's great and cheap.
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Post by Draven on Jun 16, 2015 3:25:46 GMT
I've thought about getting a windlass bowie - and honestly, I'd stick with one of those over an unknown. I get the desire to find out if the crazy crow ones are decent though, I've mulled them over as well. You could try track of the wolf. They have a lot of the same stuff and I've Track of the wolf mentioned more among reenactors and woodsmen than crazy crow, so you might stand a better bet finding reviews.
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Post by justin520 on Jun 16, 2015 3:32:34 GMT
I can't seem to find any bowie knives there, just beleduque and roach belly knives. The bowies they do have are multi hundred dollar customs.
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Post by L Driggers (fallen) on Jun 16, 2015 3:44:54 GMT
Why would you be willing to bet your life on a cheap knife.
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Post by justin520 on Jun 16, 2015 3:46:08 GMT
Price doesn't always reflect quality, I do intend on getting customs shortly, but for now I b want kiss prices with good quality.
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Post by justin520 on Jun 16, 2015 3:51:17 GMT
Also historically bowies weren't usually high priced best steel ever type knives, just a good fit for their furniture was about all that was needed for those who used them in real dueling situations.
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Post by L Driggers (fallen) on Jun 16, 2015 3:59:20 GMT
A man trying to survive always will try to have to the best made tools. A knife that will break or bent isn't going to help you at all. I've broken plenty of cheap knives over the years.
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Post by justin520 on Jun 16, 2015 4:02:46 GMT
A man trying to survive always will try to have to the best made tools. A knife that will break or bent isn't going to help you at all. I've broken plenty of cheap knives over the years. These days cheap doesn't always man break out bend though, it might just mean 5160 as opposed to t10.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2015 4:22:39 GMT
The Kentucky bowie you are looking at has the same quality as the knife I pictured. It won't be sharp and it will be chunky. As far as I know, it is not like Atlanta Cutlery as far as offering sharpening. To be honest, if you are not just trying to scare someone with a big knife, less can be more. Consider that the SOG knives from the Vietnam War were 6"-6 1/2". I had carried a Ralph Bone 6" at the small of my back for years and was very comfortable. Weight and bulk may not seem like a big deal but it adds up over time. If you are honestly feeling that your life depends on a fighting knife, spend the money on something of better quality and heft than the India stuff. You seem to stress traditional looks and size as much as a defensive knife. By the time you have spent money on half a dozen clunkers, you could have bought a much more realistic weapon. One can find the Blackjack 1-7 under $200 and it is a poor man's Randall. A timeless pattern. www.blackjackknives.com/?BISKIT=18487278&CONTEXT=cat&cat=19Scary convex sharp out of the box and side by side with a chunky monkey from Windlass, you'll never go back. For cheaper and India try Dixie Gun Works and in the same vein of quality for big and cheap, there are the better quality Ames Rifleman's knife repro. Historic and quite large. www.ebay.com/itm/M1849-Ames-Riflemans-Knife-Civil-War-Era-Fighting-Knife-Replica-/111350830595?There is a a Gerber BMF on Ebay right now that will likely go less than $200, as that is the high street price right now. Compare the size (right on the table) to more realistic carry bowies and daggers in the center of this pic. www.ebay.com/itm/301659824924?Attachments:
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Post by Draven on Jun 16, 2015 4:29:08 GMT
I agree that price doesn't always affect quality. Moras can (or at least, could a few years ago) be had for under $10 and they are very high quality blades. Beckers aren't that cheap, but certainly affordable. Green rivers are good kitchen/food prep/hunting knives for $10-20. That being said, I agree that if you have a sturdy knife as it is, buying a cheap knife of unknown quality isn't an ideal progression and the fact that not all cheap knives are bad is not an endorsement for cheap knives. I've owned far more junk cheap knives than good cheap knives.
What about cold steel recon scout? They can be had second hand easily enough and a new handle could be made without much trouble. I put an oak handle on my trailmaster (same basic knife, with a longer blade) and it's much better now.
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Post by justin520 on Jun 16, 2015 4:51:19 GMT
I agree that price doesn't always affect quality. Moras can (or at least, could a few years ago) be had for under $10 and they are very high quality blades. Beckers aren't that cheap, but certainly affordable. Green rivers are good kitchen/food prep/hunting knives for $10-20. That being said, I agree that if you have a sturdy knife as it is, buying a cheap knife of unknown quality isn't an ideal progression and the fact that not all cheap knives are bad is not an endorsement for cheap knives. I've owned far more junk cheap knives than good cheap knives. What about cold steel recon scout? They can be had second hand easily enough and a new handle could be made without much trouble. I put an oak handle on my trailmaster (same basic knife, with a longer blade) and it's much better now. I've heard the rubber hilts on the trailmaster and recon scout come loose easily. Are their back edges serviceable?
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Post by Draven on Jun 16, 2015 4:56:10 GMT
The back edge on my trailmaster came moderately sharp - it came to a sharp edge, but the angle is probably 60-70 degrees or so if memory serves. I live in TX, both bowie knives and double edges are a no no - I only intended it for heavy camp use (which could have an exception for allowable use under texas law) but blunted the false edge anyway.
I didn't have the rubber grip on long enough for it to get loose. The lanyard tube runs through the tang so I don't imagine it would actually be able to spin on the tang. Either way, the grip is poorly designed IMO - it gets narrower in the middle, where the palm has a hollow and where the fingers are longer, necessitating a thicker grip. It was just uncomfortable for me. I did build it up in the middle with inner tube for a while which vastly improved it, and felt less tacky than the grip rubber which I found preferable as well.
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