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Post by aussie-rabbit on Jun 1, 2015 13:40:48 GMT
Received two knives today, this one - Heckler & Koch 14440SB Ally Folding Knife 2.8" Combo Blade by Benchmade, black oxide coated, partially serrated, AUS-8 blade - came shaving sharp out of the box, smooth opening and closing, good tight lockup without play, reversible pocket clip for us left handers, nice big lanyard point and a glass breaker to boot. May end up as my EDC for a good while The second a CRKT M4-02W Burl Outburst Assist Opening Liner Lock Lots of features, good design, but CRKT, would it have really hurt to make the pocket clip reversible ? shaving sharp but a fraction behind the HK, centering good but again a fraction to the left, good lockup, no play, useless secondary lock, lovely burl wood scales a bit dry by the time it reached the land down-under, a rub with some of my famous (? ) wood protector/finish and presto ! Now, CRKT fans tell me about that tensioning / locating screw in the bowels of the knife (opening is a bit stiff at the moment)
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Post by randomnobody on Jun 1, 2015 18:55:34 GMT
That CRKT looks good, but I can't get into their stuff for some reason. I blame the disappointment of the Sting from many years ago... I'm also not big on assisted knives; they offer no gain in my experience over non-assisted knives, referring of course to the spring specifically. A guy I used to work with once had...I think it was a Kershaw, that he somehow dislodged the spring and lost all function of the knife. Didn't really make me like 'em any more than I already didn't. Still, not a bad haul.
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Post by aussie-rabbit on Jun 2, 2015 3:00:21 GMT
That CRKT looks good, but I can't get into their stuff for some reason. I blame the disappointment of the Sting from many years ago... I'm also not big on assisted knives; they offer no gain in my experience over non-assisted knives, referring of course to the spring specifically. A guy I used to work with once had...I think it was a Kershaw, that he somehow dislodged the spring and lost all function of the knife. Didn't really make me like 'em any more than I already didn't. Still, not a bad haul. The Heckler & Koch 14440SB is impressive, both knives were landed here for $65 including post, that is a big bonus , the HK on it's own locally is :- Benchmade 14440SB HK Ally Combo Edge Black Folding Knife $72.95 CODE: 14440SB Availability: Out of stock While the CRKT is not available anywhere in Aussie when they are they climb over $100
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Post by aussie-rabbit on Jun 2, 2015 3:05:56 GMT
A guy I used to work with once had...I think it was a Kershaw, that he somehow dislodged the spring and lost all function of the knife. Didn't really make me like 'em any more than I already didn't. Still, not a bad haul. The CRKT does not use a spring but rather a torsion bar - without that you would still be left with a liner lock with extra "safety" lock - the extra lock is just plain dumb, only works when open, locked closed would make far more sense,
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Post by randomnobody on Jun 2, 2015 3:16:02 GMT
The H&K isn't my style, so I didn't really comment on it. That CRKT grabbed my attention, though. Trying to figure out the torsion bar bit, don't have any assisted blades but I have a couple autos. Only one I really have any grasp of "how it works" is the stiletto, with its backspring (for lack of better descriptor) which launches the blade outward when a button is pressed releasing another spring (presumably also bar-based) which has a retaining pin at the other end which seats in a divot in the blade "tang" (maybe more ricasso?) to keep things closed. It also has a sliding lock which prevents this button from being pressed, presumably a similar function to your "safety" lock? I've got another knife, a Camillus Trekus something-or-other, with three blades sharing one axis lock; none of which will open without the lock being cleared first. Kind of annoying, but I guess it's better than having two sharp blades and a saw randomly decide they want to be open in your pocket. Actually, my Gerber Obsidian (which I try to forget I spent money on) has a "safety" lock that keeps the blade from deploying as well as from closing, even with the axis lock cleared. Guess it's kind of a thing, I dunno. Though if you want to complain about needlessly complex locks, have you seen my Wildsteer thread?
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Post by aussie-rabbit on Jun 2, 2015 3:31:33 GMT
Though if you want to complain about needlessly complex locks, have you seen my Wildsteer thread? Just checked it out, you could call it a knife for safety nuts, but you know the saying - make something idiot proof and along will come a better idiot.
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Post by aussie-rabbit on Jun 2, 2015 3:42:59 GMT
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Post by randomnobody on Jun 2, 2015 3:47:50 GMT
Though if you want to complain about needlessly complex locks, have you seen my Wildsteer thread? Just checked it out, you could call it a knife for safety nuts, but you know the saying - make something idiot proof and along will come a better idiot. I'm aiming to not be that idiot. What's the new knife, one of yours? Slipjoint? Not bad, but I don't like slipjoints.
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Post by aussie-rabbit on Jun 2, 2015 4:26:22 GMT
Just checked it out, you could call it a knife for safety nuts, but you know the saying - make something idiot proof and along will come a better idiot. I'm aiming to not be that idiot. What's the new knife, one of yours? Slipjoint? Not bad, but I don't like slipjoints. Simple slip joint, remembering I got my first knife at 12 and now I'm 59, still have some of the really early ones too 1987
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Post by randomnobody on Jun 2, 2015 4:52:42 GMT
Heck, I don't remember when I got my first knife; probably 7-8? Don't remember what it was, but I remember one in particular was one of those flip-out handle models, where the blade was on a slide with a pivot that filled in a portion of one side of the scales...earliest I remember after that is a knife my father sent me when he was in Korea, '93 I guess it must have been. I think I broke the former, but the latter is still in a case with a bunch of my other early knives.
That Gerber's interesting, auto? OTF?
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Post by aussie-rabbit on Jun 2, 2015 5:11:14 GMT
Heck, I don't remember when I got my first knife; probably 7-8? Don't remember what it was, but I remember one in particular was one of those flip-out handle models, where the blade was on a slide with a pivot that filled in a portion of one side of the scales...earliest I remember after that is a knife my father sent me when he was in Korea, '93 I guess it must have been. I think I broke the former, but the latter is still in a case with a bunch of my other early knives. That Gerber's interesting, auto? OTF? The Gerber is manual with a sliding "bolt" for lockup - came in several sizes, the Parabellum was the largest, I have 3 of the sizes including the one pictured
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Post by Adrian Jordan on Jun 2, 2015 5:32:14 GMT
That's a great deal for both those knives. I know prices are murderous over there. Love the handle on that CRKT, and that HK is interesting. CRKT steel seems to run a tiny bit soft. Nothing drastic, but just thought I'd throw that out there. Really easy to sharpen back up, though.
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Post by aussie-rabbit on Jun 2, 2015 9:44:50 GMT
That's a great deal for both those knives. I know prices are murderous over there. Love the handle on that CRKT, and that HK is interesting. CRKT steel seems to run a tiny bit soft. Nothing drastic, but just thought I'd throw that out there. Really easy to sharpen back up, though. The HK claims a HRC of 60 for AUS 8 that's fairly good, CRKT says 8Cr13MoV without a hardness level, both are similar steels, so guessing 56-58.
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Post by bigpete on Jun 2, 2015 9:54:40 GMT
Heck, I don't remember when I got my first knife; probably 7-8? Don't remember what it was, but I remember one in particular was one of those flip-out handle models, where the blade was on a slide with a pivot that filled in a portion of one side of the scales...earliest I remember after that is a knife my father sent me when he was in Korea, '93 I guess it must have been. I think I broke the former, but the latter is still in a case with a bunch of my other early knives. That Gerber's interesting, auto? OTF? The Gerber is manual with a sliding "bolt" for lockup - came in several sizes, the Parabellum was the largest, I have 3 of the sizes including the one pictured I found one of these the other day amongst some rubbish !
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Post by bigpete on Jun 2, 2015 9:55:43 GMT
How the hell did you get an assisted opening folder in SA ?
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Post by aussie-rabbit on Jun 2, 2015 9:59:54 GMT
How the hell did you get an assisted opening folder in SA ? SHHHHH!!!! not so loud !
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Post by randomnobody on Jun 2, 2015 12:24:02 GMT
Heck, I don't remember when I got my first knife; probably 7-8? Don't remember what it was, but I remember one in particular was one of those flip-out handle models, where the blade was on a slide with a pivot that filled in a portion of one side of the scales...earliest I remember after that is a knife my father sent me when he was in Korea, '93 I guess it must have been. I think I broke the former, but the latter is still in a case with a bunch of my other early knives. That Gerber's interesting, auto? OTF? The Gerber is manual with a sliding "bolt" for lockup - came in several sizes, the Parabellum was the largest, I have 3 of the sizes including the one pictured Sliding bolt, eh? Never seen one of those before, that's pretty neat. Now I'm going to have to try and track one down to fill my "crazy locks" obsession... Funny Adrian should declare CRKT as "easy to sharpen" as my greatest complaint against the one model I have is the bloody edge went to crap and won't come back for anything.
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Post by LG Martial Arts on Jun 2, 2015 17:35:52 GMT
How the hell did you get an assisted opening folder in SA ? Exactly what I was thinking - aren't knife laws extremely restrictive, especially in the Victoria area?
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Post by Scott on Jun 3, 2015 0:33:29 GMT
How the hell did you get an assisted opening folder in SA ? I was wondering the same thing.
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Post by Scott on Jun 3, 2015 0:37:12 GMT
How the hell did you get an assisted opening folder in SA ? Exactly what I was thinking - aren't knife laws extremely restrictive, especially in the Victoria area? Not sure about ownership laws in SA, but from memory assisted opening knives are a restricted import.
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