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Post by L Driggers (fallen) on May 8, 2015 7:54:12 GMT
Oklahoma law making the carrying automatic (switchblades) knives illegal has been repealed. Now I just need to make up my mind on what automatic knife under $175.00 I want. Probably one of the Brenchmade models.
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Post by randomnobody on May 8, 2015 10:49:13 GMT
Good for Oklahoma, I've never seen the difference between an auto and a half-decent one-hand opener like a thumb stud or trigger flipper thingy, whatever those are called these days. My thumb stud knives open just as quick or quicker than my autos with the same or less effort, and they're not even spring-assisted. I'm just not allowed to carry to autos... (Not that I need to or would if I could, just would be nice to know I could if I wanted) Now to see if more states follow suit or if somebody gets upset and the repeal is "corrected"...
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Post by Timo Nieminen on May 8, 2015 12:22:16 GMT
Our government didn't see the difference between autos and one-handed openers. So they just banned all one-handed openers, auto or not. At least it's consistent.
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Post by randomnobody on May 8, 2015 12:40:30 GMT
Honestly, that's the whole idea I've been baffled by. Personally, I carry two-handed, manual openers almost exclusively just by coincidence. Only problem in many if the world's locales is the blades lock. That's the one thing I'm not sure I could compromise on; I've had too many weak slipjoints and don't trust friction folders at all. I think it's silly how many regulations there are on knives. Some make sense, like ballistic knives, but the rest are just useless.
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Post by L Driggers (fallen) on May 8, 2015 13:46:34 GMT
Tennessee has also repealed their law agianst them, the south leads the ways. I can get by with one hand openers too. But a automatic is still easier to use with one hand. It probably won't long until Texas and Arkansas do.
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Post by randomnobody on May 8, 2015 14:14:13 GMT
I suppose there's been an upward trend in autos hitting the market in a more accessible price point in recent years, so probably more push for legalization. Or perhaps the actual trend is the reverse of this?
I remember, not too long ago, browsing the "New Products" page at Knife Center (I think?) and noticing that almost everything posted at that point was automatic. Benchmade was a prominent brand, but there were others. Struck me as odd because most places don't/didn't allow carry, and many were strict on even owning automatic knives.
I'm curious what the "official" reasoning of the appeal is...
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Post by L Driggers (fallen) on May 8, 2015 15:19:05 GMT
The knife center still only sales to police or miltitary only. I know I'm police but one of these days I will retire, don't want to have a knife I can't carry. It always been legal in OK to own one just not carry.
I guess with most states passing concealed carry handgun law, they see it's stupid to have laws agian automatic knives.
Maybe the knee jerk reaction to ban knives that are used in assaults is over. A lot on states band butterfly knives when they got popular and were used in assualts. I can use a butterfly but prefer a thumb opening knife. They are easier to open and less a chance of messing up the opening. Still practice with my butterfly knives just for fun. Noughing fancy in the opening. Just like nunchakus the fancy stuff has no place in combat.
Ever understood why someone would want to take the chance of hitting themselfs in the nuts nunchakus. No it's not good for getting someone to let go of you if they've got you in a behind bear hug. Hit them in the head.
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Post by hoya on May 8, 2015 15:38:58 GMT
I live in Oklahoma, so it's time to get a butterfly knife. Honestly, the regulation of these knives (and other things like nunchakus) was probably just an over-reaction to seeing them used in movies. I don't think there are any statistics whatsoever that these things were any more likely to be used in a crime than anything else. Concerned moms saw movies of some guy in a leather jacket with a pink mohawk pulling out a switchblade and they said "oh no! we have to ban those!"
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Post by L Driggers (fallen) on May 8, 2015 15:53:58 GMT
Where in Oklahoma do you live, by the way butterfly knives ever got band iin Oklahoma. Some people tried to call them gravity knives they're not a gravity knife in a blade that slides out the front and locks in place.
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Post by randomnobody on May 8, 2015 16:00:17 GMT
Oh yeah, butterflies/balisongs. Forgot about those, have a pretty crappy (albeit large) one, myself. Again, legal to own, illegal to carry. Though one of the guys I worked with for a while (transfered recently to another store) used a small one for a box cutter for quite some time until management got strict on "safety" blades. He'd have that thing out, through a box, and away again in a blur. Was impressive, to say the least.
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Post by L Driggers (fallen) on May 8, 2015 16:57:51 GMT
My aren't cheap one's two Brenchmades and two Cold Steels.
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Post by LG Martial Arts on May 8, 2015 17:54:10 GMT
Fallen, PM me - I have a couple of new/very lightly used BM autos you might like
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Post by hoya on May 8, 2015 18:15:28 GMT
Where in Oklahoma do you live, by the way butterfly knives ever got band iin Oklahoma. Some people tried to call them gravity knives they're not a gravity knife in a blade that slides out the front and locks in place. I live in OKC. I guess I used the wrong term, not really a knife expert.
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Post by RicWilly on May 8, 2015 20:07:31 GMT
Back in the day I could open a Buck Knife one handed without a thumb stud or any other type of assisted opening device. I'd probably cut my thumb off if I tried that now.
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Post by RicWilly on May 8, 2015 20:09:09 GMT
Fallen, PM me - I have a couple of new/very lightly used BM autos you might like You mean autos or assisted opening, like the barrage?
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Post by randomnobody on May 8, 2015 21:50:48 GMT
Back in the day I could open a Buck Knife one handed without a thumb stud or any other type of assisted opening device. I'd probably cut my thumb off if I tried that now. Come to think of it, I have a couple manual two-hand-openers that I could probably one-hand in a pinch, but for the same reason, I'd rather not try... My recently-purchased Deejo, for instance, specifically states in its manual that the knife is a two-hand operation exclusively, "Do not try to open or close with one hand." I just did, though. Clumsy, but with practice... I'm slightly better with my 9" J.J. Martinez, but that's not exactly a knife for carrying around... Everything else, though, is too stiff or has locks along the way that interfere. I'd be in a bad spot if one hand was occupied when I needed to cut something... Guess that's why I carry a fixed blade, too. Of the autos I own, should they be legalized for carry in my state, I might pocket the stiletto for sheer novelty alone. I'd have to sharpen it, though. The only other auto I carry is about 4.5" long and pretty hefty, so it'd stay home. Would I buy another auto knife? Eh, nah. I'm good with manual, but I see no reason other folk can't have 'em.
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Post by LG Martial Arts on May 8, 2015 22:49:44 GMT
Fallen, PM me - I have a couple of new/very lightly used BM autos you might like You mean autos or assisted opening, like the barrage? Autos like a Stryker and an Infidel
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2015 15:02:10 GMT
New Hampshire allowed some years ago. Lots of states allow autos but it is the federal law that makes sales across state lines difficult (hence sites mentioning law, military). Then one must also meet state carry regulations, much of them regarding intent. Here in Rhode Island, autos are ok but blade length for carry (aside from exclusions) is restrictive.
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Post by LG Martial Arts on May 13, 2015 1:04:54 GMT
Something to consider are municipality laws: there are some cities in TX that have CRAZY knife laws that prohibit what would be legal almost anywhere else in the state
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