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Post by justin520 on May 7, 2015 3:22:52 GMT
I had this idea watching some cas guys last Sunday, meiji action shooting. They had single action revolvers during the bakumatsu and boshin wars I believe. So the concept is this, a shooting course you must move through with your sass, either one or a pair, and at the end some tatami our bamboo to katagiri your way through. Criteria for points are speed, accuracy, form, and cleanliness of your cuts. Any failings add five seconds to the time.
Would you guys participate?
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Post by Cosmoline on May 7, 2015 20:32:05 GMT
Sounds like a blast! I've been trying to encourage the black powder guys to start incorporating 18th and 19th century swords into their competitions, but there's pretty much no interest. For some reason there's a dogma that swords all vanished after around 1700. Which is absurd of course. Heck, Lewis and Clark were preparing to go toe-to-toe with a band of Sioux at one point using drawn sabers. Late period Japanese and European blades would be perfect for a Meiji shoot. In fact I'd suggest kicking it up a notch and gearing up to do some saber vs. katana sparring. Simple pieces of plastic would work as wasters. The main difference is the style, not the weapons.
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Post by The Lone Stranger on May 7, 2015 21:43:52 GMT
That does sound cool! Heck I love my Vaquero but what I think would be even more fun is if someone made a repro tanegashima. But I would want one that was converted to percussion rather than the matchlock type. However I think that the tanegashima might be a skosh too early since I think the Japanese went to a Gwehr 88 then. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.
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Post by justin520 on May 8, 2015 0:12:33 GMT
Sounds like a blast! I've been trying to encourage the black powder guys to start incorporating 18th and 19th century swords into their competitions, but there's pretty much no interest. For some reason there's a dogma that swords all vanished after around 1700. Which is absurd of course. Heck, Lewis and Clark were preparing to go toe-to-toe with a band of Sioux at one point using drawn sabers. Late period Japanese and European blades would be perfect for a Meiji shoot. In fact I'd suggest kicking it up a notch and gearing up to do some saber vs. katana sparring. Simple pieces of plastic would work as wasters. The main difference is the style, not the weapons. I had never even considered sabers but that wouldn't be out of context if you're dressed up as a French dude fighting for Tokugawa.
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Post by Curtis_Louis on May 8, 2015 2:42:43 GMT
I think it is an awesome idea! I especially like the idea of drawn sabers incorporated into a black powder event.
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Post by ShooterMike on May 8, 2015 13:57:36 GMT
It does sound interesting.
And there could be a possible Walking Dead side match. You know, just for fun...
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Post by Cosmoline on May 8, 2015 15:42:18 GMT
Remember, too, that many Japanese officers were fascinated by western swords and carried them instead of Japanese designs.
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Post by justin520 on May 9, 2015 0:13:16 GMT
It does sound interesting.
And there could be a possible Walking Dead side match. You know, just for fun... ;) They already have zombie shooting courses, I'm trying to be unique, gawd! Jkjk
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Post by ShooterMike on May 9, 2015 9:36:43 GMT
It does sound interesting.
And there could be a possible Walking Dead side match. You know, just for fun... They already have zombie shooting courses, I'm trying to be unique, gawd! Jkjk True. I shoot them. What's missing is the whole concept of any form of swordsmanship. If you can figure out how to incorporate sword use in a meaningful way, so that it's part of the scoring, you'd have a valuable "something" that could be applied to the scoring for a match set in any genre. I think the concept has real potential...if you can work out a good way to score it that's not subjective. And could be applied by others anywhere.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2015 12:58:20 GMT
There's no real reason you couldn't. Then again you could always add some element of civil war swords into the CAS thing, so it works both ways if you wanted to include it. Why not.
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Post by ShooterMike on May 10, 2015 14:11:26 GMT
There's no real reason you couldn't. Then again you could always add some element of civil war swords into the CAS thing, so it works both ways if you wanted to include it. Why not. The biggest issue I see, coming from a background of RO and match director at more than a few action pistol and 3-gun matches, is fair and repeatable scoring. It's all fun and games 'til some Prima Donna starts whining about how the scoring is not fair and you're just letting your friends win. I'm unfamiliar with how real cutting competitions are scored. So someone please 'splain me how this could work? And how it could be scored impartially without anyone's subjective opinion being involved? Please don't misunderstand. I am all in favor of this. And if it could be worked out, I would add it as an element to our regular matches, at least on an infrequent basis, and see how other competitors receive it.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2015 21:29:47 GMT
Make the sword part un-scored, or pass-fail for where cutting through gets you the point for that section and failing to go all the way or knocking the thing over gets you nothing, or get out there with a protractor and judge the angles? You could take a page from these guys: www.toyamaryu.org/Judging_Tameshigiri.htm with the points scaled to whatever makes sense for the match, and only worry about the areas you're interested in judging. I'd say just treat the scoring like the points on "Who's Line is it Anyway" and just worry about having a good time and having nobody get maimed, and drinking beer or whatever afterwards, but some people get really into the competitive thing.
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Post by shantanu on May 14, 2015 22:19:09 GMT
As what have Justin said that "They already have zombie shooting courses, I'm trying to be unique, gawd!" I would like to know how effective is that zombie shooting courses? As I am getting interested on it. ____________________ switchblades legal
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Post by Cosmoline on May 15, 2015 19:30:43 GMT
Why not just do a sparring match with blunts?
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Post by applejack on Jun 24, 2015 23:26:57 GMT
I hear about something like that at zombie shoot but they said it was not safe and that it was too big of a liability. the shooting was ok but sword play i guess is too big liability (rofl)
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Post by Onimusha on Feb 27, 2016 21:29:48 GMT
I'm game. Somebody find a range.
Seriously though. It wouldn't be long before some idiot got hurt, and the fun would be over forever.
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