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Post by moonsword on Apr 27, 2015 0:37:48 GMT
As a designer I suggest that you do not draw your sword design on the metal first, but first draw it on a long sheet of paper using drawing tools, this way you can draw out the sword very precisely. Use the scale 1 inch equals 1 inch, so that the design will be the exact size the sword will be when finished. Draw a side view and a top view, and any other views you deem necessary. Draw out all the parts to scale. Then after you have done this, draw out your sword on the metal, be precise!
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Post by aussie-rabbit on Apr 27, 2015 3:37:26 GMT
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Post by Mikeeman on Apr 27, 2015 5:00:50 GMT
Luna used to sketch his, I think. Is he still around?
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Post by L Driggers (fallen) on Apr 27, 2015 17:27:27 GMT
Do you make knives or swords. I do like your idea, just doesn't work to well if you are forging.
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Post by moonsword on Apr 27, 2015 19:27:07 GMT
Yes, I think you are right, L Driggers, drawing the sword first on paper might not work too well when forging, but you would have an idea how to forge it. No I do not at this time make knives or swords, but want to. I have been drawing knives and swords on copy paper for 40 or 50 years, and have thousands of designs, and so many I have never seen anywhere else. Many cutlery makers do very high quality knives and swords, but seem to lack great design ability. Now if we could combine the two...........
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Post by Mikeeman on Apr 27, 2015 20:30:35 GMT
Yes, I think you are right, L Driggers, drawing the sword first on paper might not work too well when forging, but you would have an idea how to forge it. No I do not at this time make knives or swords, but want to. I have been drawing knives and swords on copy paper for 40 or 50 years, and have thousands of designs, and so many I have never seen anywhere else. Many cutlery makers do very high quality knives and swords, but seem to lack great design ability. Now if we could combine the two........... What is flashy and fancy is not always what is useful and effective. The designs from the past have been time tested and battlefield approved. Fantasy designs are merely that. Works of fantasy. Just because it looks cooler does not mean it is designed better.
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Post by Jussi Ekholm on Apr 27, 2015 20:52:44 GMT
Hopefully you can post some of your work, I would like to see some of your designs. I've done few 1:1 sized drawings and it's pretty fun. The problem is that I won't be able to get them made for cheap as I am picky about minor details. So most likely they'll always just be drawings. Still fun though.
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Post by MOK on Apr 28, 2015 0:03:03 GMT
But skip the first few handfuls of designs, they get much better towards the end. As an trained professional artist I must agree with moonsword's sentiment, though. I'm firmly of the opinion that if you haven't done at least half-a-dozen increasingly refined sketches, concepts, mock-ups etc. in some form you can't really know what you're doing - although, in all honesty, sometimes you don't actually need to know what you're doing - and seeing the design life-sized helps a lot in getting a feel for what the proportions will look like in reality.
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Post by moonsword on Apr 28, 2015 4:55:49 GMT
Yes, I have done quite a few knife designs to I inch equals 1 inch, and I would suggest again to make the knife out of wood first before you make it out of metal, this gives you a good idea what the knife will look like and gives you a feel for the handle. As for submitting some of my designs I am afraid they would be immediately stolen! I also have knife designs that I call TKAA designs, or The Knife As Art. I have a very good standing drill press, and belt-grinder, which I will be setting up this summer, hope to be making knives soon.
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Post by Bryan Heff on Apr 30, 2015 20:41:21 GMT
What's with all the yelling in the title? : )
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Post by L Driggers (fallen) on May 1, 2015 3:59:35 GMT
Lost interest when he said he didn't want to get his designs stolen. Really doubt he's came up with anything new, inless it's a fantasy design with a lot of next crap stuck on it.
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Post by LemuelTheLemur on May 1, 2015 4:58:26 GMT
New designs are always welcome here, and tbh I wouldn't worry too much about people stealing designs. No offence, but I find people overvalue the worth of an "idea" way too much. It's really not hard putting pen to paper and coming up with a 2D design, it's waaay harder executing on the design in 3D. Kudos to you for having a go at real knife making, I hope we get to see some of your work soon :)
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Post by Mikeeman on May 1, 2015 5:26:24 GMT
Lost interest when he said he didn't want to get his designs stolen. Really doubt he's came up with anything new, inless it's a fantasy design with a lot of next crap stuck on it. That's basically what I tried to say earlier in the post.
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Post by Rifleman Lizard on May 2, 2015 23:19:52 GMT
We've had a few 'design stealing' hiccups over the years. Someone took one of Luna's tactical designs not so long ago. It sticks in my mind because he was pretty miffed about it.
If you don't want someone to use your designs you should keep them under your hat. Putting something out into the public space means people will do just that, despite you sharing in good faith.
I've got to say, it takes some nerve to criticise the designs of proven craftsmen if you aren't yet a craftsman yourself. I'm sure we can rattle off the names of many esteemed individuals, makers of incredible swords both in function and design. These people make the things they love, many inspired by historical pieces or inspired entirely by fantasy. Don't let your first step in the industry be one of criticism. Let your work do the talking. Cant wait to see your designs.
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Post by Lonely Wolf Forge on May 7, 2015 21:57:45 GMT
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Post by MOK on May 8, 2015 15:08:49 GMT
Tell you what - for every design you post, I'll draw and post one, too! And I'll take requests, so if there's something specific you want to see, feel free to pipe up (that goes for everybody reading this). I always do better when I have something to work off of.
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Post by Lonely Wolf Forge on May 8, 2015 15:16:39 GMT
an excellent Idea Mok!
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Post by Striderfly on Dec 11, 2015 22:29:50 GMT
I think, rather than hiding your designs for years with no bright future planned for them, maybe it's better to have the compliment of someone ripping it off. At least someone made it. Form of flattery and all that..
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Post by Derzis on Feb 12, 2016 0:20:06 GMT
This is one knife I designed and it was supposed to be done by someone here - things changed due to personal reasons. But I wouldn't mind if someone will make it. Drawing on paper first, cutting it and after drawing on the sheath of metal, makes sense. But just for a knife made from a stock sheath of metal. For forging one, it is different. Attachments:
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