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Post by justin520 on Mar 19, 2015 0:34:41 GMT
Why not have a crooked top or angled top walking stick with the profile of a bokken? This negates all the illegalities and keeps several realms of skill and training open to it's use. Seems like it may be the best possible way to legally carry a "sword stick". I know Steven Seagal designed one for cold steel but I could do without the lame polypropelene, and maybe a carbide tip so you don't screw up your nice wood bokken/walking stick.
Thoughts anybody? I was considering submitting this idea to kingfisher woodworks to see if they liked it.
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Post by randomnobody on Mar 19, 2015 0:58:54 GMT
I think some jurisdictions/localities/areas/whatever have restrictions against "clubs" or other "blunt force weapons" as well as blades and boomsticks. These would negate the idea of a specialty "cane" as you suggest, and yes, they already exist.
And yes, they have drawn lines between "orthopedic cane" and "cane-shaped club" etc.
Otherwise, sure.
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Post by mindfulloffire on Mar 20, 2015 18:22:02 GMT
j520 they sell cane tips at the pharmacy i put one on my wood bokken w/ no plastic tsuba and have used as walking stick for a while. its awesome.
i really don't think the cane curve to be necessary.
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Post by Lukas MG (chenessfan) on Mar 20, 2015 19:32:02 GMT
The problem with that is that unless you really need a walking aid, everybody will be looking at you funny if you walk about with a cane. Too bad the times where a cane was part of a gentleman's outfit are over (though if we're playing that game, I want to go back to the times where a sword was part of a gentleman's dress code :D). Good luck explaining to the cops why a healthy individual needs to carry a cane around. If you do need one, well, you're probably in a bad enough shape that a cane alone won't cut it when someone actually tries to take your lunch money away. Though it might be better than nothing so I do see a very limited use for what you suggest.
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Post by mindfulloffire on Mar 20, 2015 19:56:57 GMT
you do not have to explain yourself to anyone not even a cop you dont have to answer any questions nor should you. Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2015 22:08:40 GMT
The best way to carry a wooden sword out in public is in a case, until you arrive wherever you are going to do your workout. Find a nice open space that isn't a gloomy corner, and do your thing with the knowledge that random people are going to stop and stare or snap a photo or video, and will probably shout dumb things at you. Do your routine, without causing the people around you to have a reasonable concern, and chances are you won't be bothered much. Obviously know your local laws / ordinances, etc because that trumps forum lore. Then when you're done, put it back in its case and either walk it back to your car trunk or if you're going to stop in for a sandwich or a coffee somewhere be as unobtrusive and respectful as possible.
Walking around with a bokken or a cane is going to draw a ton of attention. Little kids can get away with carrying sticks, that's cute. An elderly person or someone clearly using it as a support device gets a complete pass. Anybody else is suspicious as heck. You need to be as careful as humanly possible to avoid doing anything that be even considered as "brandishing" or you're asking for trouble. Someone walking around with a cane who doesn't need one is not a sophisticated man about town, he's a weirdo with a club. You counter that by being as non-weird as possible.
If you're ok with the attention, go for it.
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Post by Lukas MG (chenessfan) on Mar 20, 2015 22:27:22 GMT
you do not have to explain yourself to anyone not even a cop you dont have to answer any questions nor should you. As soon as you use it to bash someone over the head or do anything else (hell, it's sufficient if someone feels threatened), you WILL have to explain yourself. Also, what Jon Frances said. It's just not practical.
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Post by mindfulloffire on Mar 21, 2015 0:20:41 GMT
If I.choose.to.walk with a stick that is.my business if you choose.not to that is.yours. And no if you get.into a.siguation where people have questions (police) you do not explain yourself you get a lawyer and explain it to them.
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Post by Elrikk on Mar 21, 2015 0:26:57 GMT
If I.choose.to.walk with a stick that is.my business if you choose.not to that is.yours. And no if you get.into a.siguation where people have questions (police) you do not explain yourself you get a lawyer and explain it to them. Well, the first part is open to interpretation, in the good old state of New Jersey a box of tissues could be seen as a weapon. The second part is dead on, I watch the show 48 hours and soooo many people will just confess to 1st Degree murder just like that....it's so stupid. If the cops want to talk to you on any matter that's serious, even though you know you did nothing wrong the only word out of your mouth should be: Lawyer.
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Post by Lukas MG (chenessfan) on Mar 21, 2015 8:17:32 GMT
If I.choose.to.walk with a stick that is.my business if you choose.not to that is.yours. And no if you get.into a.siguation where people have questions (police) you do not explain yourself you get a lawyer and explain it to them. Whatever, then you or your lawyer will have to explain in court why someone who didn't need a cane/stick/whatever went around with one and used it to whack someone. In the eyes of many that will look a lot like you were looking for trouble and bringing a weapon along for exactly that purpose. Even if nothing happens and you go about your business peacefully, you'll look suspicious as heck and draw a LOT of attention. Also, if you want to be consequent about it, you'd have to carry the stick everywhere and at all times and I don't know many jobs that allow for that, if any. A better alternative might be carrying a sturdy umbrella. At least as long as the weather does its part. In the desert an umbrella would look out of place, too, if you get my meaning.
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Post by L Driggers (fallen) on Mar 21, 2015 8:37:16 GMT
Get a lawyer sure but why put yourself in a situation where you could detrain for hours.
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Post by mindfulloffire on Mar 21, 2015 11:34:54 GMT
I.think you all think too.much. Chill out. Lol. If you have a walking stick who cares if people look at you funny It is.also extremely unlikely to.ever be put in. Situation where you would.have I.defend yourself with it. Nobody will.duck With you. and you as thinking human being is the one to make the decision if you find yourself in serious trouble to ask a stick to help you out obviously hat must be a last resort thing. otherwise its just an accessory. Not as big a deal as we are making it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2015 12:42:32 GMT
I.think you all think too.much. Chill out. Lol. If you have a walking stick who cares if people look at you funny It is.also extremely unlikely to.ever be put in. Situation where you would.have I.defend yourself with it. Nobody will.duck With you. and you as thinking human being is the one to make the decision if you find yourself in serious trouble to ask a stick to help you out obviously hat must be a last resort thing. otherwise its just an accessory. Not as big a deal as we are making it. People are pretty chill here. I live in a state where I can go walk around town wearing a daisho if I wanted to, but in the real world just because you can do something doesn't mean you should. The reality is in any state the police have a wide amount of individual discretion, and acting belligerent is not going to help you whether it's over a speeding ticket or your right to hang out downtown with a bludgeon in your hand. If one comes over to talk, which is *highly likely* if you're standing around with a weapon in your hand, and you play the "I don't have to talk to you" game you're basically asking for the situation to escalate. If you're out in some rural area and want to use it to actually hike, or whatever, that's one thing. If you don't care about other people looking at you funny, ok great. Be your own man or whatever and rock that bokken. Hell, wear a cape and a top hat, I don't care just know that you're basically screaming for attention. It's kind of juvenile, but hey if that's your thing then go for it.
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Post by mindfulloffire on Mar 21, 2015 12:49:28 GMT
yeah i use it for hiking. but i wouldnt think twice about walking around with it in public though. like i said it's an accessory. i also don't believe it would cause nearly the attention / stir / commotion some of you think it would. i have some personal experience in drawing attention to myself unnecessarily cause i'm a total weirdo. i've oft times dressed up in costumes and skated / walked around towns. magneto skating through nyc for comicon, a lion or ninja turtle in other smaller cities, local towns. i've done countless protests trying to bring attention to things we are not allowed to discuss here. people pay surprisingly little attention to weirdos. they say oh look a weirdo maybe take a pic or a video and then go about their business. carrying a walking stick is way down low on the weirdo attention scale. imho but it always comes down to...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2015 21:24:25 GMT
Thoughts anybody? I was considering submitting this idea to kingfisher woodworks to see if they liked it. Kingfisher already has a walking stick w/ carbide tip. I have one of their Jo staff, at 50 1/4" by 15/16", and it's drawn quite a bit of attention when I was carrying it out of the building to my car, even using it as a walking stick. In the state I live in, if you're carrying any type of martial arts weapon you're supposed to keep it in the truck on your way to and from your dojo. I know a guy who carried a 6' crooked walking stick with a knob at the end and always called him Gandalf when he did. He carried it in stores and everywhere he went, but it seemed more appropriate in some areas than others IMHO.
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Post by justin520 on Mar 27, 2015 6:34:55 GMT
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