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Post by Caboose on Mar 16, 2015 21:36:56 GMT
Ok, I made a thread about something similar a few months back, but I was really busy and never got around to actually doing anything. Also since then I have gotten two new swords, both of which could use some work. So basically I'd like to even out a fairly rough/steep secondary bevel. I'd prefer to do it by hand, for a number of reasons. I would also like polish the guard + pommel of a sword that came with a fairly rough polish, and also polish out some light scratches on the edge of my Albion. Still haven't had any luck finding any Scotch Brite pads locally, so those are out (only able to find entire boxes online, with crazy expensive shipping costs on them). I would really appreciate some product recommendations for this. I'm still a total noob when it comes to this, so keep that in mind. I was considering this as an option for both sharpening and poloishing: www.reliks.com/merchant.ihtml?pid=5163Thanks :)
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Post by Mikeeman on Mar 16, 2015 21:49:16 GMT
Just pick up some high grit sandpaper. That stone is probably going to leave a bit if a nasty finish. And sandpaper is just down the road at your local hardware store.
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Mar 16, 2015 22:04:37 GMT
And in this context, "sandpaper" means silicon carbide wet-and-dry. Use water (or oil if you prefer) as a lubricant. 400 grit is a fair all-purpose medium grit. Below that = coarse, above that = fine. A stone will work; the one you link might be OK (don't know if they use the same scale for the grits as sandpaper). A silicon carbide stone is better than an aluminium oxide stone; don't know what the stone you link is.
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Post by Mikeeman on Mar 16, 2015 22:05:37 GMT
^ Listen to him. He knows what's up.
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Post by Caboose on Mar 16, 2015 22:21:53 GMT
Just to double check, you mean something like this, right? They come in 320, 400 and 600 grit. Which one would work best for sharpening? That sounds a little rough for polishing/scratch removing though. Pretty sure I remember reading that gray scotch brites are 800-1000 grit. Would something like #0000 steel wool work for that?
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Post by chrisperoni on Mar 16, 2015 22:22:33 GMT
Look in auto repair stores like O'Reilly or CanTire - that kind of store - for high grit (1000 and up) wet/dry sandpaper.
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Mar 17, 2015 4:01:53 GMT
Just to double check, you mean something like this, right? They come in 320, 400 and 600 grit. Which one would work best for sharpening? That sounds a little rough for polishing/scratch removing though. Yes, that kind of thing. If I'm sandpaper sharpening, and starting with a reasonable edge already, I usually start with 400. And might finish with 400, rather than going to a higher grit. Yes, that's too coarse for a fine polish. That's what grits like 1000, 2000, etc. are for. Pretty sure I remember reading that gray scotch brites are 800-1000 grit. Would something like #0000 steel wool work for that? The problem with steel wool is that it isn't harder than the blade. You want something harder than the steel blade, so you'll remove material from it, and get a smooth finish. Similar grit sandpaper, or maybe an extra-fine sanding pad of whatever kind they have at your local hardware/automotive/paint shop might be good. Maybe some local place carries the real thing: www.scotch-brite.ca/wps/portal/3M/en_CA/CAScotch-Brite/Scotch-Brite-CA/Support/Where-to-buy/
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Post by Caboose on Mar 17, 2015 17:33:33 GMT
Yeah, I've searched the online catalog of all of those places. They all stock 3M products, but none of them have the Scotch Brite hand pads. However, I was taking another look around, and I found THESE. This looks like exactly what I need, it even comes in 400 grit for sharpening and 1000 grit for polishing/scratch removal. Can I just get a confirmation that these are good? How would these compare against the ones I linked earlier?
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Post by chrisperoni on Mar 17, 2015 19:35:30 GMT
Yes the 3m sandpaper is exactly what you are looking for. Buy the full size sheet packs instead of those half size ones you linked to. They run about 5-7$ for 4 full size sheets. In can tire the high grits are found in the auto section not the tools and woodworking tools section. Yes 0000 steel wool will work like scotchbrite pads for polishing in a satin finish while cleaning crap off the blade. Note that steel wool or scotchbrite pads will leave a sort of random rings or circles pattern in the steel when viewed from certain angles where the light bounces off the steel and shows the buffing pattern. To confirm- sand papers for sharpening, steel wool for polishing to a satin finish. To remove a steep secondary bevel I might begin with a double cut file to bring down the peak of the bevel some. Then sand with progressive grits; 400, 600, 800, 1000, 2000. I would use mineral oil or 3in1 oil with the paper. Drizzle oil on the paper and spread it around to soak it in a bit. The slurry created from the grit coming off the paper while sanding, combining with the oil, will aid in sanding as you sharpen. Look for the sharpening videos by Tom K here on sbg. He goes into detail with drawings and swords for examples as he explains how to take down the peak of the bevel etc. He has 2 methods of hand sharpening he recommends. He used to keep the sandpaper taped down and work the blade on it, but later he changed his method to clamping the blade and working the paper on it with a sanding block. Either works. 1st two vids here are Toms old ones on hand sharpening sbg-sword-forum.forums.net/thread/15462/sharpening-polishing-methodsand here's his updated one
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Post by aussie-rabbit on Mar 18, 2015 13:12:40 GMT
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