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Post by Suho on Feb 25, 2015 11:39:17 GMT
I've seen this term used to describe the supposed battle-ready line of UC LOTR swords, like Glamdring and Sting, which claim they are forged of high carbon Toledo Spring Steel. I am aware of Marto in Toledo, but it seems like a lot of their blades are actually stainless and so was wondering what the hell this was made of or what it was similar to.
Thanks.
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Post by aussie-rabbit on Feb 25, 2015 12:44:17 GMT
Toledo steel was famed for its very high quality alloy from Roman times, made in Toledo, Spain, much later famous rapiers so well popularized by the Musketeers came from Toledo. These swords were laminated with a low carbon soft core and a high carbon outer layer. There is a good article with images here - www.academia.edu/319577/Metallographic_investigation_of_a_Toledo-steel_swordToday Toledo is a much hyped marketing tool.
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Post by Suho on Feb 25, 2015 16:24:12 GMT
Thanks for the article. Quite interesting. So, it seems it may refer to a method of forging together steels of different carbon content more than a specific alloy?
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Post by MOK on Feb 26, 2015 0:39:46 GMT
Probably not. These days the name of Toledo means exactly nothing, it's just marketing copy. Ignore it.
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Post by aussie-rabbit on Feb 26, 2015 1:22:54 GMT
Probably not. These days the name of Toledo means exactly nothing, it's just marketing copy. Ignore it. ^^^ MOK is right, just advertising hype.
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Post by Suho on Feb 26, 2015 4:10:40 GMT
So does anyone know what type of steel those limited battle-ready United Cutlery LOTR swords were made of?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2015 16:44:04 GMT
I wouldnt call them battle-ready at all. The reviews i read here on SBG of the Sting and the Glamdring, especially of the Glamdring, didnt look too nice and revealed a highly suspicious hilt assembly. Full tang, yes, but somewhat hollow grips with screw setups similar to the Windlass Conans if i remember correctly. Check the review index.
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Post by KaOsBlaKbLaDe on Feb 27, 2015 16:52:31 GMT
Yep,...Toledo=nothing
as far as the uc museum collection, they are carbon steel for sure, Im thinking that 1075 comes to mind, but am completely unsure what specific steel comprises their blades. The hilt assembly on mine is as firm and tight as can be. I did see the thread that Holg mentioned, and although i'd prefer a different compression setup, and will eventually convert mine, i'm not ready to bump them out of the "battle ready" category. It's not the first blade i'd pick up for battle, but mine has seen the abuse that Avery put the RK medieval line through and has survived those types of sessions 4 times now.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2015 17:35:34 GMT
thats good to know...may i will grab one. There are some on ebay right now...
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Post by LG Martial Arts on Feb 27, 2015 20:22:43 GMT
I wouldnt call them battle-ready at all. The reviews i read here on SBG of the Sting and the Glamdring, especially of the Glamdring, didnt look too nice and revealed a highly suspicious hilt assembly. Full tang, yes, but somewhat hollow grips with screw setups similar to the Windlass Conans if i remember correctly. Check the review index. Actually, the Museum Collection Glamdring and Sting swords are full tang, while the Samwise Hero Sword is a rat tail construction. I own a MC Glamdring, and I don't think I'd ever use it for actual cutting. It has NO distal taper, plus like mentioned before, has a metal grip/pommel that I don't trust. At some point, I'd like to redo the grip, but don't know when that'll happen.
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