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Post by Afoo on Jan 23, 2015 6:25:25 GMT
There is a Belgian sabre or pallasch here. Looks kind of unique, though do not know much about it. I do like the way the grip widens at the end to prevent your hand from slipping down. The grips don't look in too great shape - maybe someone here may be interested in picking in up for restoration (if thats even possible).
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Post by Luka on Jan 23, 2015 13:03:02 GMT
I expect that this one will be sold for a high, high price.
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Post by Uhlan on Jan 23, 2015 13:17:52 GMT
The link brings me to this page again?
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Post by JGonzalez on Jan 23, 2015 13:20:59 GMT
The link brings me to this page again? Me too!
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Post by Luka on Jan 23, 2015 13:33:56 GMT
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Post by JGonzalez on Jan 23, 2015 13:44:04 GMT
oh that's pretty
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Post by Uhlan on Jan 23, 2015 15:36:06 GMT
Thanks Luka. I think dealer price to be around $300, so consumers price around $600. Michael D. Long sells a 1845 for GBP 350 / $525 in reasonable condition, so his (auction) price was about GBP 150 / $225. I find by the way most Ebay pricing to be inflated, including M.D Long's.
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Post by Dave Kelly on Jan 23, 2015 16:26:43 GMT
Belgians used a variant of the French ANXIII since time as Napoloeonic allies. The '54s don't require the same payroll as the 1st Empire ones. You will note two dealers are probing. THis was replaced in 1860 by the Italian '60 Dragoon.
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Post by Afoo on Jan 23, 2015 17:08:30 GMT
fixed link. Hopefully the grips and the fact its not an actual french sword drives down the price a bit
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Post by aronk on Jan 25, 2015 22:09:33 GMT
I've been looking for one of those myself. Though I would prefer a French model. Of course, I'll probably have to be willing to pay well into the $2000 range, and I'd rather buy an original 96 light in very good condition for that price.
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Post by Afoo on Jan 26, 2015 15:15:42 GMT
On the theme of small Western European nations, there is a Danish sword (1910 model I believe) going on e-bay. Its at $43 with 1 day 9 hours left. What do we think? It has some damage to the guard, but could be a nice deal on an unusual piece. Would have sprung on it right away had I not already spent money on the Brazilian sword (I like swords from unusual countries). As it is now, a bit undecided. Perhaps now someone else may want it more than I do, thereby saving me from making the choice :P
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Post by Luka on Jan 26, 2015 17:26:43 GMT
I like it. It reminds me of my Austro-hungarian M1861 but without nickel plating on the blade. If the price doesn't go up 3 or 4 times, it's a steal. Btw, this Belgian monster is still quite low, but there is still time to go up...
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Post by aronk on Jan 26, 2015 20:13:00 GMT
That could be quite a steal if eBay doesn't go crazy over it.
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Post by Dave Kelly on Jan 26, 2015 22:39:42 GMT
Look at the list of buyers. Anyone who has over 600 buys is probably a seller; anyone over 1000 IS. This is being watched. Then there are the snipers who hold their cards until the last minute before they move. May be wrong, but I'm guessing 700.00 to play for this one. ( The sellers will probably bail at 600.00 )
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Post by aronk on Jan 27, 2015 3:10:08 GMT
I'm with Dave. It won't go for less than $500.
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Post by Dave Kelly on Jan 28, 2015 10:17:20 GMT
Talked to the seller. He has one reference for the pallasch. Russian catalog that describes this as an 1850s Belgian Gendarmerie Pallasch. Rohmst measured the blade for me and it is only 34.6 inches long; this is consistent with the downsized pallasches used by the Prussians since 1856. The Belgian Gendarmerie survives today as the state escort cavalry. On the old/old board we had a member named Hugh he was half secretive about his profession, but always enthusiastic about anything I posted about Heavy Cav. He finally told me he was a policeman serving in the Gendarmerie. I got as excited as he was. What a great job! ( Unfortunately when we transitioned in 2010 we lost Hugh. )
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Post by aronk on Jan 28, 2015 15:01:29 GMT
Very interesting. If only the sellers would put more effort into including the history of the pieces they are selling in their listings.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2015 23:12:19 GMT
Hey look who's back! and time for some pedantic rambling: that model is not of cuirassiers but artillery/ammo train units. The cavalry model had 4 branches while the train had 3. Usually referred to as the 1852-1888 model. www.abl1914.be/SabelTrein1888/SabelTrein1888.htmVery odd that support units were given double-fuller blades when it was widely reserved to heavy cavalry units at the time, this and the lack of Belgian sword sources make it difficult when stumbling upon such patterns and trying to identifythem . Here's one good link: www.abl1914.be/inhoud.htmI wonder how much this one will sell for, most likely a lot since it is an obscure but very gorgeous piece.
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Post by Dave Kelly on Jan 28, 2015 23:59:45 GMT
Thanks Pablo. Your capacity for suddenly coming up with sources no one else has, is a marvel. Your ability to plunge into the fray just in time to rip off my head and defecate down my neck is also the most sexually gratifying moments I've got since my 55th birthday. Thank you, darling.
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Post by JGonzalez on Jan 29, 2015 0:47:14 GMT
Thanks Pablo. Your capacity for suddenly coming up with sources no one else has, is a marvel. Your ability to plunge into the fray just in time to rip off my head and defecate down my neck is also the most sexually gratifying moments I've got since my 55th birthday. Thank you, darling. 8D You are one sick man bro. :-D
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