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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2008 5:13:50 GMT
so I dropped by a local kung fu place tonight to show off my wares. It happened to be a very traditional school with a few branches in Canada, U.S., and UK. When I got there they kept on saying how utterly crappy their floppy swords were. I am so happy I could find a traditional school. The sifu was there and he was flipping through my antique book and really got into it. I feel I can bring true swords to these guys.
so one school down and lots more to go!
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Post by vayduong on Jan 25, 2008 6:58:01 GMT
That's a good service for the martial arts world.... with the number of KungFu practitioners out there who don't know a real sword from a floppy wushu blade.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2008 12:03:27 GMT
do they ever explain WHY wushu weapons are floppy as all sin O.o..i mean even praticing it doesnt seem that practical
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2008 15:29:47 GMT
From what I have read, the 'floppyness' helps indicate edge alignment during movement, cutting and thrusting techniques.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2008 17:12:45 GMT
It's the system, tools, and training they do. The emphasis is on style and conditioning. It is not for combat or functionality but mostly form and show. Wushu practitioners can fight but they don't know how. They have to be taught how to contact to do damage to an opponent. Raw material wise they are the perfect ones to train.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2008 0:49:47 GMT
yup just like gymnasts could be awesome fighters too. Their coordination and muscle efficiency is amazing.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2008 23:26:59 GMT
Wushu blades wobble when swung improperly.
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Post by oos3thoo on Mar 26, 2008 6:03:12 GMT
Because your not swinging properly.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2008 21:52:38 GMT
Well, in my Kung-Fu training anyway the weapons were looked upon as extensions of the body. In Kung-Fu the legs and arms are seen as whip-like delivering the energy of the strike as such. As opposed to Karate, which "chambers" the power.
So, maybe this is the philosophy behind the sword techniques and swords themselves? I haven't trained with sword in Kung-Fu, only Wing-Chun staff, which is very fluid and whip-like...for a piece of wood.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2008 23:48:05 GMT
Well, in my Kung-Fu training anyway the weapons were looked upon as extensions of the body. In Kung-Fu the legs and arms are seen as whip-like delivering the energy of the strike as such. As opposed to Karate, which "chambers" the power. So, maybe this is the philosophy behind the sword techniques and swords themselves? I haven't trained with sword in Kung-Fu, only Wing-Chun staff, which is very fluid and whip-like...for a piece of wood. It depends on the system of chuan fa/gung fu/wushu versus the system of kara te. I don't think any of the systems monopolize or rely only on whipping versus chambering power for all their techniques.
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Post by vayduong on Mar 27, 2008 0:41:21 GMT
Very true. There are "whippy" kungfu styles and hard chambering styles. Look at Tan Tui,..... almost every style has a version, but almost all are executed similarly to forms done in karate. Solid heavy punches and wide stances.
I read somewhere.... forgot where, maybe on another forum, but modern competition wushu focuses on speed and coordination of movements. Alot of the things you see done in wushu competitions aren't combat applicable. That's not why they do it. You can't do a lot of the wushu moves with a heavier and properly balanced sword.
I like to think of modern wushu as nothing more than a sport. Just like how you use a foil instead of a smallsword in fencing..... I would expect the same in wushu. Everything is for safety and speed. And with wushu being ssuch a major event/sport in China.... it's no surprise to me that wushu sword kind of became a standard.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2008 1:58:48 GMT
Well, in my Kung-Fu training anyway the weapons were looked upon as extensions of the body. In Kung-Fu the legs and arms are seen as whip-like delivering the energy of the strike as such. As opposed to Karate, which "chambers" the power. So, maybe this is the philosophy behind the sword techniques and swords themselves? I haven't trained with sword in Kung-Fu, only Wing-Chun staff, which is very fluid and whip-like...for a piece of wood. That is true for many styles however keep in mind that swords have more in common than you think. A sword is a sword. A jian is closer to a Euro Type X or XII than it is to the wushu swords in use now.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2008 0:14:20 GMT
Hey Garrett, you should check out Silent River Kung-Fu, they probably will be interested. Arg, can't wait till I'm back in Kung-Fu.
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