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Post by LG Martial Arts on Dec 24, 2014 23:28:53 GMT
I ran into these vids earlier today - seems like interesting concepts that I'll probably try working on in the future. What do you all think?
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Post by Adrian Jordan on Dec 24, 2014 23:55:33 GMT
Not sure. I'd have to assume that these techniques are being done against someone not versed in striking or submissions(which admittedly is a large part of the population). I love Aikido and believe that it, like most traditional martial arts that are called non-effective, can be really effective with the correct mindset and level of commitment. Some of the stuff I saw in the videos however wouldn't work well against someone who knew a bit about kicking(knows to kick through the target and bring the leg back quickly) and groundwork. The enemy of success in submissions is space, and I saw a lot of space in there. Time is also something to think about. If you approached, say, that standing heel hook with the mindset of not hurting the person and just holding it will fail. I like the deep step in on the kick. A lot of guys show to stop and the knee, and that can lead to badness, hahaha. I think if everything is done quickly and with finality they'll work.
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Dec 25, 2014 0:27:24 GMT
Re: kicks. Of course, it's a compliant demo, so everything works well. Side-stepping a kick, ideally while moving in, is a good (and standard) defence against front and side kicks. Can be combined with grabbing the kicking leg. I don't see that as being specifically Aikido technique - it's standard in various karate/TKD/kung fu styles.
It's also not easy to do successfully. In principle, Aikido should help there. Sidestep/close/grab can be used successfully in sparring, but I haven't seen people without lots of experience do so.
I didn't like the kicks. Not the distance/timing to be kicking like that. Kick at that kind of long range when you catch the opponent sleeping (i.e., being inattentive), not when they're ready and watching. Front kick like that is asking for trouble, even if all the opponent does is primitively defend by dropping the elbows (which will cover the good targets and break your toes). What does work at that distance is to use the kick as a feint to close to punching distance and get them to drop their elbows; next is a couple of punches to the face. Over-hasty sidestep & close doesn't work very well against that, especially when not covering the face very well. (But unrealistic attacks are normal enough in compliant demos, and are useful to isolate a technique for a simple drill. They have their place in training.)
(My preferred emergency counter against sidestep/close/grab is to counter-grab the opponent's head. If I'm going down onto the mats, I want my opponent coming down too, preferably underneath me.)
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