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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2008 1:22:02 GMT
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Post by randomnobody on Jan 21, 2008 1:24:58 GMT
Very, very nice. Will you be producing these, or was this just an experimental thing?
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Post by oos3thoo on Jan 21, 2008 1:25:24 GMT
It looks like a katana. Whats the big differences?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2008 1:27:17 GMT
Yum.
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Post by oos3thoo on Jan 21, 2008 1:32:02 GMT
Damn thats nice though.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2008 1:51:03 GMT
I can produce them. But there are certain complications as you will see below. They are slightly different from katana. The balance is different That thing has a 38" blade Big swords are hard to ship. However custom orders are welcome as cost isn't as big an issue! I could always shorten it slightly but even then they are too big for many countries. I still will add one to my personal collection at some point though
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Post by vayduong on Jan 21, 2008 1:51:20 GMT
Looks like a Zheng Wu Miao Dao to me! What a beauty.... looks just like mine, except I had mine custom sized.
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Post by randomnobody on Jan 21, 2008 1:57:26 GMT
Short of the HUGE SWORD bit, what other complications would a production run present? I can't tell if it's some trick of the light or oil or what have you, but that blade looks to be folded and differentially hardened. Is this so?
You mention the balance differs from a katana; I imagine with a blade some 10" longer on average that it would. But is it farther down, or do the double fullers and perhaps a longer...hilt (calling it a tsuka would probably be a no-no in this case, but I don't know the appropriate term for this type of sword) actually balance it closer? 38" is something I might be able to get into.
But the question is, IF you were to produce them, what would be the cost? Any idea? Otherwise, any estimates on what ONE would run?
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Post by rammstein on Jan 21, 2008 1:59:43 GMT
I was just about to ask that!
Very pretty, glad it's so long. Puny katana won't fit in my hands ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2008 2:30:59 GMT
Random just use English terms. I don't scare away beginners with terminology seeing as noone really is familiar with Chinese terms anyway. English terms will more than suffice. Well the Chinese almost always fullered their dao and had more distal taper than the katana. The result is a sword balancing closer to the hilt than their Japanese counterparts. The Chinese mostly did not use differential hardening after the Tang Dynasty. After which it was exported and became all the rage in Japan. DH did come up in China a bit but wasn't as popular as in Japan. This sword was done in san mei lamination and what you see is the folded sides of the sandwich and the hardened center plate protruding from between the cheeks If I were to do production it would be probably in the $400 range for a monosteel. A custom exactly like this would run somewhere in the neighborhood of 800-900 big ones.
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Post by oos3thoo on Jan 21, 2008 2:34:14 GMT
Wow... i wish one would fall from the sky, into my lap... Along with a girlfriend.
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Post by randomnobody on Jan 21, 2008 2:35:30 GMT
Ah, san mai. Just as good, I guess. Pretty, anyway. A balance point close to the hilt would probably be best for a behemoth like this, at lease I imagine I'd personally be more comfortable. $400 is more than I'm willing to put out for a monosteel, granting even the sheer size of the thing, but 8-900 for an exact duplicate seems quite reasonable. Hmm...
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Post by oos3thoo on Jan 21, 2008 2:38:33 GMT
It does! If I had the money I would for sure buy one!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2008 2:42:14 GMT
well the PoB isn't close to hilt. just not as far down as say Japanese nodachi.
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Post by randomnobody on Jan 21, 2008 2:50:20 GMT
Okay closeR was probably the better word, but it's just the same to me, personally. For something this big, I would probably prefer the balance to be closeR to the guard than that of a typical katana. Not that slightly to moderately blade-heavy bothers me particularly, bit I was curious how a double-fullered 38" blade could balance relative to a known type. CloseR to the guard than a katana seems good enough. R. Ah, you've gone and changed to nodachi on me. Now I'm all confused and such. Oh well, guess I'll just have to save up and buy one to find out how it handles. (Remind me in a few years, I might be able to manage it by then... )
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2008 3:14:32 GMT
lol ok here's a more accurate measurement. I'd place the PoB somewhere around 5" from the guard.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2008 4:50:32 GMT
The reason it was closer to the hilt and fullered is because chinese martial arts and arts of war were different to the swordsmanship of japan. The mia dao was used alot of the time with one hand in rapid circular strikes which you can't do with a katana because of the balance of a katana and the weight of a katana. This meant that the mia dao had to be alot lighter but have more integrity in the blade because of how the techniques work.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2008 5:28:13 GMT
A somewhat lower quality miao dao in action. I like how he shakes it at the beginning to show everyone its not a wushu blade LOL.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2008 6:33:47 GMT
Stop it! Just stop it! I can't take it any more! I WANT THEM ALLLLLL!
AAAAAAHHHAAAHAAHHAAA!
(Runs gibbering into the night.....)
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Post by randomnobody on Jan 21, 2008 18:18:12 GMT
Okay, 5" was about where I was hoping it would be. I don't know the first thing about Chinese arts, but they sure made some fine blades, and that's really all I'm after right now. I might learn them eventually, when I find the time and money to do so, but for now they look real pretty up on my wall, and if I can give them a swing every now and again then all the better. Now, if only I could get a job.
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