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Post by Deepbluedave on Feb 12, 2015 5:58:42 GMT
Very nice, did any one ever get one of these?
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Post by junon on Feb 12, 2015 10:16:17 GMT
I tried couple years ago to contact mr.wong
But seems like his business doesn't exist anymore? I could not contact him...
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Post by Turok on Feb 12, 2015 10:45:36 GMT
Wow! Way to bring back a 7-year-old thread from the dead! Seriously, I doubt Mr. Wong is still around. Many sword makers just come and go.
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Post by william m on Feb 12, 2015 13:33:25 GMT
There are loads of these swords up for sale on ebay. Normally the chinese sellers try to sell them off as being original but 99.99% are just modern fakes.
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Post by randomnobody on Feb 12, 2015 14:35:47 GMT
I tried looking earlier, before linking this thread to another in the Ancient Swords section. Couldn't find any.  (Well, none that weren't "aged," that is) |
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Post by william m on Feb 12, 2015 14:41:37 GMT
ah right, you want one thats nice and new looking?
Be careful if you are going to use them though as we have no idea on the percentage of tin or zinc included in the mix.
High tin means the bronze flows easily into the mould and makes it super easy to cast. This however makes a poor sword as the bronze becomes very brittle and will snap if you tried to cut anything with it.
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Post by AlvaroWang on Feb 12, 2015 14:46:17 GMT
Beautiful beautiful sword!
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Post by randomnobody on Feb 12, 2015 14:59:53 GMT
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Post by william m on Feb 12, 2015 15:04:03 GMT
Owch, those are really overpriced!!
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Feb 13, 2015 0:23:57 GMT
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Post by randomnobody on Feb 13, 2015 1:27:42 GMT
Those aren't half bad, and easily more affordable. Pitu they aren't actual bronze, but eh.
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Post by william m on Feb 13, 2015 8:57:33 GMT
Most of these repros in as new condition all seem to be of the kings sword design.
I have handled a few original ones that are dotted around for sale in London, and they are tiny little things. Large dagger sized for the most part.
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Post by randomnobody on Feb 13, 2015 9:33:13 GMT
Bronze swords never were particularly big. I've seen some lauded as absolutely huge at a whopping two feet long, overall. I wanna say I might have seen one or two in the 30-inch range, but can't recall. I came this close to buying a smallish piece a couple years back, was going for about $475, 12-inch blade, decent shape, from Luristan "first millenium BC" et cetera. Saved my pennies for one too many paychecks and somebody else got it. Still, I'm wanting at least one bronze "sword" and if I can get a fancy Chinese original, then I'm going for it. Meanwhile, the repros are cool looking, but if that's all they are I'm not really that interested.  |
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Feb 13, 2015 10:05:39 GMT
The original (i.e., the Sword of Goujian) is 22". Which puts the blade at about 18", which is fair to call "large dagger sized". Plenty of things traditionally called swords at that size, but also long daggers and dirks. More generally, jian of this style (i.e., bronze jian with this style of hilt) vary from about 12" total length to about 26". Short ones are often about 16" total length, and longer ones 20" to 22". Flat tang bronze jian can be longer. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sword_of_Goujian |
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Post by william m on Feb 13, 2015 10:14:10 GMT
Not particularly large? Well take a look at this monster! Its not Chinese but Danish I think.  |
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Post by randomnobody on Feb 13, 2015 10:36:23 GMT
Yeah, I've seen that one before, but generally referred to as an exception (exceptional exception, even) rather than a sample of the norm. I want one, either way.  |
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Post by william m on Feb 13, 2015 10:45:15 GMT
The chinese had the long jian and the long dao. I have handled a long jian repro and its quite substantial. Would really love to have a repro long dao at some point.   |
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Feb 13, 2015 10:50:26 GMT
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Feb 13, 2015 10:59:52 GMT
The one on the bottom right is "overall total length of 111 centimeters and a 2-handed grip length of 23 centimeters." Not to scale with the ones on the left. |
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Post by randomnobody on Feb 13, 2015 22:37:16 GMT
Huh, so I guess they got a bit bigger than I'd thought. I've been reading so much about how bronze is basically only good up to such a size that I hadn't even considered the possibility of exceptions. |
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