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Post by applejack on Nov 15, 2014 21:26:04 GMT
well they did it they made a AK that takes AR mags. from JG sales Yugo M85NP AK PAP Pattern Pistol, Krinkov style, chambered for 5.56x45 with adapted magwell to accept AR-15 magazines. Has a 10.25 inch barrel and 21.5 inch overall length. Includes the hinged top receiver cover with Krinkov pattern flip up whit dot rear sight, standard front sight with auxiliary flip up white dot front sight, black polymer Yugo pistol grip, wood handguards and removable krinkov muzzle brake. Comes with one 30rd mag. Made in Serbia by Zastava. Attachments:
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Post by Onimusha on Nov 16, 2014 0:06:27 GMT
If you have an AK in 5.56, you can buy the adapters.
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Post by applejack on Nov 20, 2014 20:45:59 GMT
that i did not know. I had always heard that the AK does not take well to useing 5.56 ammo and mags(jamming, fail to feed, stovepipe )
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Post by Onimusha on Nov 20, 2014 22:59:11 GMT
I have a friend with a norinco AK in 223/556. I've seen it malfunction once as the result of riding the bolt handle. I'm not a fan of the 223/5.56, so I don't fool with a lot of guns chambered in it.
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Post by Lonely Wolf Forge on Nov 21, 2014 0:41:13 GMT
why would you want an AK in .223? the biggest advantage of the AK other than reliability is the 7.62X39 round  |
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Post by Onimusha on Nov 21, 2014 5:19:35 GMT
Until you get past 150 yards.
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Post by L Driggers (fallen) on Nov 21, 2014 5:40:07 GMT
If the 7.62X39 is so great why did Russia go with a 22 cal cartridge like the 5.56.
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Post by Onimusha on Nov 21, 2014 5:55:42 GMT
All I know is that I watched someone shooting 7.62x39 tracers at 300 yards, and they were striking the target at about a 45° angle. Flat-shooting it ain't.
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Post by L Driggers (fallen) on Nov 21, 2014 5:58:25 GMT
The Ak was designed to be used in mass wave attacks spraying bullets as they go.
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Post by Onimusha on Nov 21, 2014 6:09:44 GMT
Yes, and it was designed based on studies that said the average soldier doesn't engage targets at more than 100 meters. Then the Russians went to Afghanistan, and the theory fell apart.
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Post by L Driggers (fallen) on Nov 21, 2014 6:19:34 GMT
Also at the time Russia didn't care about their soldier sending them in human wave attacks, spraying from the hip to try to surpress incoming fire.
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Post by Onimusha on Nov 21, 2014 6:46:57 GMT
There was that as well. Such a waste in a number of ways.
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Post by Lonely Wolf Forge on Nov 21, 2014 11:54:35 GMT
if you can't shoot..i can hit the mark at 300 yards all day with my Yugo PAP. |
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Post by L Driggers (fallen) on Nov 21, 2014 14:26:20 GMT
Hit your mark what kind of groups are you getting and what ammo are you using.
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Post by Onimusha on Nov 21, 2014 19:13:35 GMT
You can hit a target at 300 yards with a .22lr. That's only part of the equation. Does it have any power left? That's the question. You're shooting 123 grain bullets at about 2200-2300fps. Basically, it's a light loaded 30-30.
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Post by L Driggers (fallen) on Nov 22, 2014 5:56:56 GMT
By the way I can shoot just fine. Most AK can only hold a 12in group at 300yds, good enough for most combat situations but not good enough for me.
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Post by Onimusha on Nov 22, 2014 6:09:14 GMT
The AK74s I've seen have been very accurate. At least on par with an out of the box AR. I think the AK47's problem is that the rifling twist (1:9.5") is too fast for those 123 grain bullets. The AK 74's twist is better matched for the weight of bullet it uses. Couple that with a general lack of quality 7.62x39 ammunition. I would love to get my hands on some brass and see what some good handloads would do for an AK.
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Post by L Driggers (fallen) on Nov 22, 2014 6:15:08 GMT
Also most AK 47 are made with looser chambers and barrels, AK 74 are build tighter.
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Post by applejack on Nov 22, 2014 19:41:03 GMT
like we learned!! 308 is best for range. The only point i could see for a AK to use AR ammo/mags is that you have a AR all ready and want to use the same stuff for it or you want a short barrel rifle in 5.56 with out the buffer tubes in the way.
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