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Post by wazikan on Nov 1, 2014 14:44:19 GMT
Im seeing alot of t10 katanas on the market. How is this steel compaired to something like 5160? Is the steel just cheaper to obtain. When diferencially heat treated does it out perform some of the more classic sword steels? I tried to do a search but it always comes back with search terms too common.
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Post by LG Martial Arts on Nov 1, 2014 14:49:19 GMT
"T10 is basically the Chinese equivalent of our 1095, but it has silicon added as an alloying element to improve the steel's strength and wear resistance (edge-holding) properties. T10 blades can be tempered to a high hardness and hold an edge well. As with 1095, rust resistance is low, and T10 blades must be carefully maintained." casiberia.com/resource/steel-information/330
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Post by frankthebunny on Nov 1, 2014 15:17:55 GMT
I find T-10 to have great edge retention, it polishes well, and it shows hamon very well. It also tends to resist some of the lighter scratches better than other steels. I don't think it's as pretty or interesting as 1095 and 5160 when you're looking closely at the surface but I'd recommend it for affordable dedicated cutters from sellers like Huawei or Hanbon.
Of course, the steel will only be as good as the ones who forge and heat treat it.
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Post by VicoSprite on Nov 1, 2014 23:48:28 GMT
Hanwei's T10 is .65% carbon (think 1065). I love their T10, have accidentally cut into my 4x4 treated cutting stand with no ill effects. Cheers, Cody
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Post by Adrian Jordan on Nov 2, 2014 0:09:35 GMT
This seems to be kind of a tricky thing. I've seen threads and videos that say that T10 is basically a generic designation. Not totally sure what the steel is? Call it T10. I've also seen it referred to as a Chinese equivalent of 1095, only to see that refuted. Also, I've seen it argued that it is basically 1095 with tungsten added, then that it's 1095 with silicon added.
Speaking for myself, I've never had an issue with a blade made from what the seller designated T10.
That notable forge and vendors have adopted it shows me that it has value as a good low-cost sword steel. As stated above, first and foremost in importance is that it has a good heat treatment.
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Post by VicoSprite on Nov 2, 2014 0:20:28 GMT
Nihonzashi states that T10 is the Chinese equivalent of American W1. They seem to be pretty knowledgeable, so I tend to think that they know what they are talking about. It kindof makes sense to. Most say that it is a alloy, and not just a simple 10XX carbon steel. Cas confirmed to me via that their T10 is .65% carbon, so I believe them...especially since some of their T10 line has been advertised by vendors as 1065. I posted the email I received from them here under the title "hanwei t10 katana line" or something like that. Cheers guys, Cody
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Post by johnwalter on Nov 2, 2014 2:07:06 GMT
Ive found that well done T10 blades can give a great looking hamon.I own a couple that have beautiful hamons. Ive owned amd tested several T10 blades that were rather soft with very little flex/return.But I believe its all in tge heat treat/temper.I just finished testing a T10 blade that reassures my belief in that,as it is a wonderful blade and very tough.Review/test video should be done soon. Imo,5160 spring steel TH,say from Hanwei,is about as tough a blade as you can get at a reasonable price,production wise.But a well done T10 DH should be tough enough.Keep in mind this is likely DH vs TH and each has its own advantage and disadvantages.
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Post by Robert in California on Nov 2, 2014 3:11:52 GMT
Anyone have an opinion on Huawei T10 blades? How is Huawei's heat treatment?
RinC
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Post by VicoSprite on Nov 2, 2014 13:13:21 GMT
Jw, it's always great to hear you input on these type of things. But you bring up another point, a lot of American/European smiths use W1and W2 for availability and the Hamon they produce. It's either odd or a coincidence that no W1 or W2 katana ever come out of China, maybe because they call it a different name.
On the same line of thinking, the Kaneie I have was advertised as 1095, but they also have available advertised T10 blades. If they were the same, why are they advertised differently?
Good topic, just throwing in my thoughts I've made thru deductive reasoning. Cheers guys, Cody
Ps,,RnC, I think most people have been happy with their dh T10 Hauwei kats, however, I've yet to own one. Cheers!
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Post by Krelian on Nov 2, 2014 20:17:00 GMT
I think all or at least most of these vendors are being honest about what their T10 is (as far as they are told anyway). I believe the problem might be that the designation "T10" isn't actually a standardized steel in China the way most other steels we're familiar with are standardized by industrial groups (like SAE/AISI), or a controlled proprietary blend like HWS-1 or CPM-3V.
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Post by wazikan on Nov 3, 2014 1:51:41 GMT
But how id the differential heat treating on these? I love a sexy blade, but i also like them to function better.
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Post by VicoSprite on Nov 3, 2014 3:08:35 GMT
What? I don't seem to understand your question. Anyhow to answer your question, lol, my favorite blade is hanwei t10. It is a great cutter and can handle accidental abuse.
Regardless of what the Chinese are selling as T10, it does seem to work well. Cheers, Cody
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Post by Aurélien on Nov 4, 2014 21:43:38 GMT
I owned maybe 5 or 6 Huawei T10 swords (all sold to fund more expensive sword purchases). And I can assure you that Jackie's steel is tough (I'm used to push my beaters to their limits), sharp, and gorgeous (sexy hamon! ) You won't regret your money, RinC.
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