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Post by Afoo on Oct 27, 2014 23:28:59 GMT
Hello SBG forumites. I am considering getting a German 1889 (?) infantry sword similar to the one shown in the attached pictured, and was wondering if I could collect some knowledge from people who may have more experience with this type of sword. Instinctively, I would imagine it feels/handles similar to the 1889 pipeback dragoon sword mentioned in Dave Kelly's article, but that's only based on how it looks alone. - Alex
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Post by Sir Thorfinn on Oct 27, 2014 23:49:43 GMT
Dave has handled most if not all these...PM him, he's a wealth of knowledge. Heck, he may even have a spare he'll sell...ya never know.
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Post by Dave Kelly on Oct 28, 2014 6:15:11 GMT
Hello Alex:
Actually I don't have a lot of expert input to give anyone on Imperial German Swords. The straight Degen is a popular design. Handling wise it is a lot more small swordish than the pipeback as more weight is transfered to the hand. The Last German kurassier degen is an enlarged version of this same application.
Best advice is to get one with a complete and functioning hilt. Witha spring loaded guard plate, you don't want to buy a broken one. Guards regimental swords are most desirable and most expensive.
I'd look on SFI and see if you can get some tips from there.
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Post by Uhlan on Oct 28, 2014 15:25:23 GMT
Hi Alex. They come in 2 flavours. The folding basket ones are called ,,Extra Degen'' and have thinny blades, intended for show. The ones without anything folding are the Issue ones and those have the widest blades and a little longer too, intended for use. If you want, PM me and I will email you a file with the complete Eichhorn catalogue from 1901, so you can see what's what. By the way Dave, if you want a copie too I will send you one. An alternative for the IOD 1889 could be the French M1854 cavalry model. Later variants of this are also worth considering. In price they are about the same.at least in Europe. For a ,,GUARD regiment'' one, you will pay through the nose. Only difference is a small badge on the grip. See here: www.ebay.com/itm/VERY-NICE-LARGE ... 2ed7cf9084 Cheers.
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Post by Dave Kelly on Oct 28, 2014 21:37:13 GMT
Have the Eichorn catalog downloaded, thanxs :mrgreen:
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Post by Afoo on Nov 1, 2014 2:43:03 GMT
Thanks for the info. The one I was considering appears to be the smaller version. It looks pretty brutish, so I was expecting something with a bit less small-sword feel. I have an 1882 French officer sword ( images-cdn.ecwid.com/images/1583227/60145002.jpg) - would the German one be similar to that? Its a bit heavier in the hand than I expected, but still quite a bit of fun.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2014 15:48:29 GMT
Hi,
the IOS 1882 has a longer blade that feels more like a large needle compared to the IOD 1889. Also everything depends on the dimensions of the German sword since these were made in all shapes and sizes with variable wideness of blade. Some look and feel like small-swords while others (folding guards or not) have bigger and massive brute blades. You'll have to inform yourself when you encounter one as to what is its blade width and length if you want a real combat sword or not.
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Post by morganx on Apr 7, 2016 17:02:00 GMT
I believe that the ones with the un-folding/fixed guards are extremely hard to find....
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