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Post by Stopped on Sept 10, 2014 9:26:31 GMT
Of late two of my blade have started to refuse to take an even layer of oil, whatever I put on, I ended up getting oil streaks/ droplets on steel surface, leaving the large portions of the sword exposed. I have tried sewing machine oil, gun oil, choji.... nothing works and I have no idea why. Now I have left a layer of lithium grease on (at least it stays on the blade) until I have found a solution.....
I don't put anything out of the ordinary on my project blades but I do use Mother polish, cerium oxide, 3000 grit paper and lithium grease when polishing out my project blades, I have used them many times in the past and never seemed to be problem.....
Anyone experiencing the same thing, what is the way out?
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Post by Stopped on Sept 10, 2014 9:32:40 GMT
Heres a pic of what the surface looks like after 30min Attachments:
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Post by Lukas MG (chenessfan) on Sept 10, 2014 11:22:40 GMT
Hm, strange. Have you tried completely degreasing the blade (with alcohol, etc) before putting on a new coat?
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Post by Stopped on Sept 10, 2014 11:40:55 GMT
I did use uchiko to get the oil off before, no effect. Alcohol is probably worth A try. Now that I think of it, one of my Coldsteel blade has been like that since I got it, but I just greased it up so forgot about it, don't like one handed sword so almost never take it off the scabbard.....
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Post by Madmartigen on Sept 10, 2014 11:49:19 GMT
It was happening to me after I was etching blades and not cleaning them enough. There is apparently some solvent on the blade and the oil is not covering the whole of it and banding. Clean with alcohol and warm water with soda until it is nice and even - sometimes I had to repeat several times.
It also happens if you use some light polishing paste on the blade - it forms a very thin film on the blade, preventing the oil to properly cover the metal. Solution is the same.
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Post by aussie-rabbit on Sept 10, 2014 11:50:22 GMT
In the 70's Rolls Royce micro polished the bores in their engines, only to find the oil would not stick to the cylinder walls :lol:
You may have done much the same thing with Mothers Mag, since MM leaves a protective film.
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Post by JGonzalez on Sept 10, 2014 12:04:34 GMT
It looks like there is a coating of silicone from a silicone cloth on that blade. It's not terribly hard to clean but it's tedious.
1. wipe as much of the oil that you put on off of the blade.
2. sprinkle either baby powder or cornstarch on the blade and leave it on there for a few hours. that should absorb a lot of the silicone oil.
3. wipe it clean and repeat step 2. on the other side of the blade
4. Wash the sword with a good degreaser; like Dawn dishwashing liquid. Just put a few drops on to the blade and gently scrub it using a soft bristle brush. rinse that puppy down real good and dry it off. (go with the grain of the steel; that's usually lengthwise)
5. oil or wax it with whatever you like to use.
Tip 1. don't leave the powder on too long it may attract moisture. re-coat if necessary
Tip 2. Silicone oil re-deposits like crazy, do the cleaning and rinsing bits bit outside or with a fan blowing
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Post by Stopped on Sept 10, 2014 12:26:31 GMT
Thanks guys for all the in put.... and :shock: I think I did use a gun cloth to wipe the blades down, high in silicon......
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Post by aussie-rabbit on Sept 10, 2014 13:32:33 GMT
In which case the cloth is doing it's job very well :lol:
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Post by JGonzalez on Sept 10, 2014 15:40:41 GMT
If you did use a silicon cloth be advised that the biggest issue with silicon cloths is that the silicon is a harsh irritant. Your eyes and nasal passages will hate you for days.
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Post by danmasamori on Sept 12, 2014 21:28:26 GMT
I wouldn't uchiko a blade after using Mother's as it won't remove the protective film. I usually hit it with a few passes of Windex and a soft cloth. Isopropyl works as well....
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Post by pokey on Sept 13, 2014 2:01:44 GMT
i think its the solvent they use rather than the silicone that is causing irritation... i did not find it too bad myself, used to keep a gun cloth in my sock drawer actually and wipe down blades in my bedroom! wore disposable gloves and never had any issues....
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Post by adamthedrummer on Sept 13, 2014 13:32:57 GMT
I agree on the use of glass cleaner and rubbing alcohol. There is obviously a coating causing the oil to bead and pool. Kinda like car wax on paint. Has the same effect on water.
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